Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Steen, could you repeat that please?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for clarification purposes, we have been advised that the question should be directed to the Financial Management Board Secretariat when you are reviewing their estimates.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Steen. Petroleum products, operations expense, total operations expense, $566,000. Mr. Miltenberger.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was wondering if the Minister could indicate how much fuel is barged up annually to the communities? Do they have a ballpark figure? Thank you.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have the director of petroleum products, Mr. Austin, here, so he would be best to respond to that question. Thank you.
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Austin
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Roughly ten million litres are barged.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is it a standard practice that roughly seven to ten percent of the contents of the barges gets left in there and is not pumped out for whatever reason? Thank you.
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Austin
I really have no idea. We receive the volume of the fuel we order. We measure it. We do the quality control checks on it. We take the volumes on for each community that we had ordered for that community. They may have residual volumes of fuel on the barge, but it certainly has nothing to do with us. We only pay for what we get.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
I was also interested in fuel storage. I recall at one point there was some discussion between NTPC and POL in terms of how to coordinate their fuel storage efforts. I was wondering if the Minister could just elaborate on the status of those discussions. Thank you.
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Austin
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we have regular discussions with the Power Corporation on the fuel storage requirements. There are a number of issues that have come into play lately that complicate the matter. The primary one being that the fuel specification for our requirements, for the public's requirement, is different than the fuel specification for the diesel fuel the Power Corporation utilizes in electrical generation.
We still have four of the 15 communities where we both have fuel facilities. In four of those 15, the Power Corporation is actually a customer of ours. In the balance of communities, we help them out from time to time, but they have their own infrastructure. The fuel we purchase for public consumption has to meet a low sulphur specification for environmental reasons.
This is in particular to motor vehicle applications for diesel. The Power Corporation is not subject to that low-sulphur specification requirement and are able to purchase their fuel for a lower cost, a wholesale cost.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If both businesses purchase the same fuel with the same sulphur content, would that compatibility resolve the issue? I would assume there is going to be increasing pressure on the Power Corporation. As I understand it, they are talking about using the low sulphur content fuel because of Kyoto and greenhouse gas emissions and all that good stuff. Is there some coming together that will eventually be reached?
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Austin
Yes, Mr. Chairman. The Environment Canada specifications on the recent legislation changing the low sulphur requirement for applications seems to be driven by California standards, which tend to be the most stringent.
Those seem to be moving everyone towards that same low sulphur requirement, regardless of application.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With the review of the process that is presently before the Financial Management Board Secretariat, will the Minister commit that before anything is done, we will do a thorough public review on the possibility of privatizing POL, especially to the Northwest Territories Power Corporation?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am sorry, Mr. Chairman, I am not clear on the question.
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