Thank you, Mr. Rattray. Mr. Roland.
Debates of July 6th, 2000
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You mentioned two years. Is that a fair time to say that is the turnaround when we know that there are some changes because some projects are issued and work is going on from the previous year's capital, and the costs go up in between the completion of that project? When do we get new information to issue the new work that is going out? Is it two years? Eight months? Thank you.
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, no, I would not say that in all cases it takes that long. In fact, some of the information we made use of immediately. It depends on what stage the projects are at and whether or not you can actually go back and start to restructure and redesign a project to reflect the fact that the market conditions have changed. It depends on how far advanced it is. In some of the projects that we are dealing with now, the design work is just starting. We have the information available that allows us to build it in right at the beginning of the design process. That is obviously the best time to be dealing with it. We obtained some of the information too late in the process to be effective, and as a result, we took a beating on some of the tenders and had to make some last minute adjustments in projects to address that.
The information was made available to departments for their budgeting purposes within the first six months of it actually starting to appear to us. That was being taken into account in some of their planning. How seriously they took it when the initial spike hit depends on department to department and individual to individual, but it has become more widely known and is being better handled, I believe, by client departments, ourselves and our consultants.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Rattray. Asset management, operations expense, total operations expense, $32,025,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Asset management, grants and contributions, total grants, $260,000. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the Rockhill Apartments, where are those apartments located and is this for a particular lease or do we own the building?
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, it is located in Yellowknife and it is to provide low income housing. That housing was formerly in the Northern United Place apartments which were converted over for use by Aurora College. In order to replace the space, we made available a building that the government owned. Consequently we have to declare a grant-in-kind to reflect that in the government's accounts.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Why has this responsibility not been given to the Department of Education which leases and occupies that facility or the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation that is responsible for housing? Why do you continue manage this specific area which is more catered towards housing or education, because they are the occupants or the users of those facilities?
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, I do not have a really good answer for that one. We worked this arrangement out about three years ago, I believe, when the project first came up, which I admit was a bit before my time. I admit I am a little sketchy on it, but my understanding is that we worked it out with those other agencies. The facility was on our books as a surplus facility. Consequently, we were the ones identified as dealing with the grant-in-kind. The major portion of the funding that was used in this project was education funding. They were the prime movers on this project or this activity.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Has the department sat down with the Department of Education or the Housing Corporation and asked them if they were willing to take over this responsibility because it does not fit within the criteria of this department any more? The whole thing about housing and asset management now seems to fall within the departments that have taken over their own responsibility to maintain their own buildings, taking care of their power payments, telephones, everything. That was basically devolved to the different departments to manage on their own. I am just wondering why this specific thing continues to remain on your books when it could be better managed within the Department of Education's budget. It ties in with them as they maintain and operate that facility that they are using.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will commit to having the department reassess whether we should be involved in this particular asset management or, as the Member says, pass it on to one of the other departments, whichever would be more appropriate. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
I was not too clear on what the Minister said. Did he say that he will consider removing this from his main estimates next year and give it to another department so it is more reflective of the agency or group that is using that facility?
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