This is page numbers 423 - 448 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was process.

Further Return To Question 138-14(4): Capital Allocation Process
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The same process should be used by each department. Each department each year should consult with the communities on what their capital needs are. The departments would bring all of that information back and sit down as a capital review committee that is headed by the deputy ministers of the departments with capital. They would start looking at all of the requests from all the communities and try to categorize them.

We always have more capital demands than we have money. As you know, we are limited to about $50 million a year in capital, so our deputy ministers try to categorize it, prioritize it and then they provide it to us. We in the Financial Management Board provide what we call a political filter. We will look at it from our political needs. We then put it into the business plans and that is the opportunity for the Members to also comment on the capital needs, if they think some are not prioritized properly. I certainly look forward to any input from Mr. Lafferty or any other Members with regard to the allocation of capital in their areas of responsibility. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. No further supplementaries? Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 24th, 2001

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs. Mr. Speaker, as of late, there has been a lot of discussion regarding Deh Cho First Nations and Deh Cho negotiations and there have been comments made in public that could be perceived as interference with negotiations by Members of Cabinet.

I would like to ask the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs if there is any policy in place which would prevent any comments made by Ministers that could be perceived as interference from taking place? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The question is directed to the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that is a difficult one because I think we are dealing with a difference of opinion here on this issue. There could be a difference of opinion on how you perceive things and just because you do not agree with one person does not mean you are right or wrong. It just means that you have a difference of opinion.

I do not know what the Member is referring to specifically. Perhaps it is based on the media, on the newspaper articles that are out there, that perhaps the chief negotiator for the Deh Cho is making statements about government so there are different government Ministers that may be replying in the media. This sort of thing could be handled quite easily in private. However, because the Deh Cho negotiations are in the public, the things that normally are dealt with at private meetings seem to be out in the media. You cannot really outlaw the media unless these negotiation sessions are held in camera.

It is hard to answer that type of question so I am just trying to understand where the honourable Member is coming from. That is the only knowledge I have. What is going on in the public are the different statements made either from the Deh Cho First Nations and the response from government.

We do not have any policy at all on what you call interference, so if somebody is making the accusation about government in the media, then the government officials that are named have to reply in the media. So I do not know. Either the two parties agree not to have it out in the media. Perhaps that is one way of doing it. Right now, there is no policy that the government has. If they are named in the media, then they should have an opportunity to explain in the same media as to why certain things are happening the way they are. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The question was a little bit -- that is why I hesitated. Perhaps through supplementaries, Mr. McLeod can clarify. Mr. McLeod, supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think at the tail end, he admitted that there is no policy for Cabinet to curb their comments in the media and you could say whatever you want, regardless of how it interferes with what is on the table. I want to ask the Minister if his department or this government has any mechanism in place to accept liability for any comments that may jeopardize opportunities in negotiations that are ongoing. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Deh Cho process is at the negotiating table now. They have recently had two sessions, one in Fort Providence and one in Trout Lake. This was agreed upon by all parties and this is a formal negotiating session that happens in front of everybody, in front of the media.

The GNWT is a party to these negotiation sessions. Up to this point, we have been playing a very minor role and we are not interfering with these negotiation sessions, so perhaps the honourable Member is saying the Deh Cho process -- the chief negotiator is negotiating to the media and the newspaper. I do not think that is a formal negotiation process. Whatever is said in the media is subject to reply by the other side if they are named. I do not see what the problem is here. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister totally ignored my question, however I will ask my final supplementary. Because the Minister of Finance said yesterday that agreements in negotiation, interim agreements are applied government wide, I want to know if the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs would agree that the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs should take the lead role and ensure that they are implemented? I do not see any one department taking the lead on it. I want to know if the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs would agree that his department should be taking the lead and ensuring that these agreements are implemented.

Supplementary To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 139-14(4): GNWT Policies On Deh Cho Process
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a framework agreement that was signed by the Deh Cho First Nations with the federal government and the GNWT, as well as an interim measures agreement. It is a process that was agreed upon that has to be negotiated. Work is happening now at these two negotiation sessions that I mentioned, of the preliminary beginning of talking about how and what scope it is going to be.

The Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs coordinates the GNWT approach at the table. We talk with the officials of the other departments that are affected by the different subject matters that are at the table. We coordinate that. At this point in time, because this interim measures agreement is one of the first of its kind, we are making our way through it to see how it is going to work internally in the government.

Yes, the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs will take a lead role in coordinating the approach of government. We take the advice and directions of other departments, so we still are in the beginning of coming to internal agreements of exactly how it is going to work at the end. This is a very beginning stage of approaches that we have agreed to be a part of and it includes the federal government as well as the Deh Cho First Nation government. So it is at a very preliminary stage, yes.

The Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs is taking the lead role in coordinating GNWT's participation at this table. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Antoine. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 140-14(4): Appeals Tribunal And Client Services
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, my question this afternoon is for the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board. It concerns the roles and responsibilities of the appeals tribunal and the client services division.

Mr. Speaker, from time to time, I think we have all had constituents who seem to have fallen through the cracks in the WCB system. It is becoming more apparent that a systemic problem exists between the tribunal, which has a certain decision and final capacity, and then the client service's branch, which I understand has a role in implementing or carrying out these decisions.

My question, Mr. Speaker, can the Minister confirm the decisions of the appeals tribunal are to be acted on fully and in a timely manner? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, they will be. When the appeals tribunal makes a decision, it will be followed up on. In terms of a timely basis, I have taken action to increase the number of appeals tribunal members so that you could have two tribunals, if necessary, in order to speed up the process. It will be done as quickly and as timely as possible. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 140-14(4): Appeals Tribunal And Client Services
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and yes, the creation of an additional panel was welcome news to help clear up the backlog, though I still perceive a difficulty within the process of decisions being made and then implemented.

I would like to ask the Minister, does client services, as the implementation branch, have any discretion in interpreting decisions or in the timing of their implementation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 140-14(4): Appeals Tribunal And Client Services
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, their responsibility is primarily administrative, so unless they had questions that needed clarity or administratively created an impossibility or some ambiguity, then they should proceed with implementing the decisions as expediently as possible. They cannot overrule or vary from a decision that is made by an appeals tribunal. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 140-14(4): Appeals Tribunal And Client Services
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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, in the implementation of decisions, again, the sense that I am getting is that between client services and the appeals tribunal, there is perhaps a tendency there to take cases and move them back and forth, back and forth as one group or the other has a difficulty or reluctance in carrying out their job.

I wanted to ask the Minister, is he aware of perhaps an unusual number of cases that just are not being resolved in a timely and an efficient manner? Is the system performing as efficiently as it should? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 140-14(4): Appeals Tribunal And Client Services
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, no, I am not aware of any large numbers or any numbers, really, of decisions that are being delayed unduly. There is always some that may be taken back for reconsideration after a decision is made and questions are raised.

Generally, I think the appeals tribunal is made up of representatives on the tribunal who want to do best for the worker and are trying to expedite the process. I know we have cut down the time from last year being 236 days to 134 days for filing decisions, so we have cleaned that up a bit. I think the membership is well-meaning. I know the cases are complicated. Sometimes people do not get the decision they want or submit further information later and that complicates it, but I am confident that the people on the tribunal are trying to do the best they can.

In spite of that, I will check into this further and let the Member know if there are any delays. If he has a specific case in mind, I would like to know more about it. Thank you.