This is page numbers 423 - 448 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was process.

Supplementary To Question 142-14(4): Implications Of Capital Allocation Process
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my concern is that I do not think we have taken into consideration the differences on needs. The needs are different in larger municipalities than they are in small settlement councils, or even in hamlets. There has always been that discretion between large and small communities. I think what this does is it even pushes them farther apart by not realizing that circumstances are different in those types of structural make up of our communities. Our services are different. Our services are mostly water delivery, sewer, and somebody picks up your garbage with a pickup truck. In a community...

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mr. Krutko, please go to the question.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

What was the question?

-- Laughter

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister tell me, have you seriously done an evaluation on the differences of need based on communities, large and small?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board Secretariat, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to be cooperative in answering Member's questions certainly, but we are treading awful close to talking about our business planning for the 2002-03 year. I find myself getting drawn a little bit further and further into it all the time. However, in this proposed way of allocating capital, we went over it with the committees. We did look at allocations by community. We did look at the small projects versus large projects. We have categorized them by community size and so on.

I hope we have enhanced the way of dealing with our capital and have not taken away some of the flexibility that was there before. We still leave a lot of the latitude, especially for smaller projects, with the communities. As I said, Mr. Speaker, I am prepared to try and answer questions here. I am also prepared to meet with the committees or the Members individually further to our business plan discussions. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think anything we do in this House, we should at least have by communities, by Members of this House, and not try to impose something on us by coming forward and say, "This is what we are doing." I would like to ask the Minister, where do the elected representatives in our communities fit into this planning process?

Supplementary To Question 142-14(4): Implications Of Capital Allocation Process
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board Secretariat, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as has been the case for a long time, each department prepares its capital plans. They do a 20 year capital needs assessment. That is done in consultation with communities and regions. They then go into a shorter five-year plan and prioritize again. That is done with communities.

The departments each then bring forward what they are hearing from the regions and communities, what they feel are their departmental priorities. That comes to the capital needs committee of deputy ministers, who then determine how our limited resources are going to be allocated.

Even after the community input at that level, there is still an opportunity after the departments and the committee make their recommendations to us through the business planning process for what is referred to in one of the charts in one of the presentations as a political filter, where we are able to look at the political considerations that must be taken into account. That is the opportunity following business plan reviews where everyone of us as representatives of constituents can have that input. That is the stage we are at right now, Mr. Speaker.

Then, of course, you have a chance again to represent your constituents' needs when we get into main estimates and so on. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot bear the thought of deputy ministers making the final decision, knowing that there might be circumstances where communities may feel strongly enough on a particular project, which for them may be their priority but it may be no one else's priority.

In that case, what is the process for those communities that may have something as their priority, which may be unique to themselves? Are they able to override this committee of deputy ministers if they feel strongly enough of prioritizing a particular project that may not meet the requirements of your deputy ministers committee?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board Secretariat, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I want to clarify that the deputy ministers do not make any final decisions with regard to capital. Those are made here in this House. The deputy ministers make recommendations to their Minister. That comes to the Financial Management Board. That comes through the business planning process. We each have an opportunity for input there. It also comes in the main estimates. There are many opportunities for the community to have input into it.

If there are particular items that communities in anyone's constituency feel strongly about that are not included in the business plans that you have seen, then I would be happy to hear what those are and have them taken back for consideration.

However, we have to keep in mind that we are working with a limited amount of money and if something else is added in, we either have to over spend beyond what we had planned in our fiscal strategy, our framework, or else we have to cut something else out. There is an opportunity here, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The time allocated for question period is over. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 6, please.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions. Are there any nays?

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An Hon. Member

Nay.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

We have a nay. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to go back to item 6.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions. Are there any nays?

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An Hon. Member

Nay.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

We have a nay. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to the opening address. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Reply 2-14(4)
Item 9: Replies To Opening Address

October 24th, 2001

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise on replies to opening address because I need to take this opportunity to alert the public about the very serious and grave situation that is happening in this House.

Mr. Speaker, I want to tell the people out there that what is happening in this House is nothing short of a palace coup. The words I use are palace coup.

Mr. Speaker, the instrument of this palace coup is the committee report filed on Tuesday and the committee report that was discussed yesterday. I think the people who need to answer to these actions are the authors of this report.

Mr. Speaker, I believe it is very clear who has written the report and in the interest of the public -- the members of the committee: a committee chaired by Brendan Bell, MLA for Yellowknife South; Mr. Roland, deputy chairman, MLA for Inuvik Boot Lake; Mr. Leon Lafferty, MLA for North Slave; Honourable Joseph Handley, MLA for Weledeh; and Mr. J. Michael Miltenberger, MLA for Thebacha.

Mr. Speaker, I say this because I believe the people out there need to know what is going on and this is only my account of what I see. It is up to the individuals in this House to answer the questions that I pose here or as a result of what I am saying in this House.

Mr. Speaker, this morning we had a Caucus meeting in the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Speaker, there was a suggestion this morning by a member of this committee that while we were discussing the process on how to select a new Minister, there was a suggestion that in the ballot to select a new Minister...

Reply 2-14(4)
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

We have a point of order. Your point of order, Mr. Krutko.

Point of Order

Reply 2-14(4)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, my point of order is that anything discussed in Caucus is the property of Caucus and it was in confidence of the Members in Caucus, behind closed doors. Whatever happens in Caucus stays in Caucus and should not be brought to the floor of this House unless it is dealt with through due process.