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Community Governance Capacity
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

The issue of community governance capacity continues to remain an ongoing concern of the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development. As the Government of the Northwest Territories continues its practice of devolving more and more responsibilities to the community level, committee members are concerned these additional responsibilities are not accompanied by adequate funding, technical knowledge, qualified personnel, facilities and equipment. Increasing and already high fuel costs have already magnified operating costs for communities.

The committee noted that in many cases, communities are not involved in decision-making processes at the territorial or departmental level on issues that directly impact them. Committee members are of the position that communities should be and must be involved in any process that affects them.

Further, the committee pointed out to the government that facilities and equipment in most communities require immediate repair, upgrading or replacement. Committee members are very concerned that inadequate facilities, equipment and the shortage of qualified staff to maintain and operate them represents a major safety issue. These facilities and equipment must be brought up to standard. The committee is of the position that the territorial government has to invest more in community infrastructure. This was also mentioned on page 5 of the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight's Report on the Review of the 2000-2003 Business Plans and the 2000-2001 Main Estimates:

"It was brought to the attention of the committee that there appears to be an increase in the percentage of funds being used to increase and sustain bureaucracy -- it is the opinion of the committee that these funds could be better spent on infrastructure or other essential programs or services for the people of the Northwest Territories."

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the introductory portion of the report.

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Range Lake, that the Report of the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development on the Review of the 2001-2002 Main Estimates be received by the Legislative Assembly and moved into committee of the whole for consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Community Governance Capacity
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Community Governance Capacity
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I request unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4) and have Committee Report 6-14(3) moved into committee of the whole for today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Community Governance Capacity
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4) and to have Committee Report 6-14(3) moved into committee of the whole. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Committee Report 6-14(3) is now moved into committee of the whole for today.

Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Committee Report 7-14(3): Report On The 2001-2002 Main Estimates
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

February 15th, 2001

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to present the Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the Review of the 2001-2002 Main Estimates.

General Comments
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The members of the standing committee noted that the reviews of the Business Plans and Main Estimates were not combined this fiscal year due to an election and that the business planning and budgetary cycle is back on track. The departmental staff worked especially hard to have the business plans and main estimates ready for committee review, so shortly after the last budget cycle. The committee appreciates the extra effort.

Committee members remain disappointed with the level of cooperation between the departments in the social program envelope. Members note that there has been some progress made in the harmonization of the income support and social housing programs and in the creation of the Early Childhood Development Action Plan. The real proof of how well the departments are cooperating will fall out from how the departments work together in implementing the strategies. The Standing Committee on Social Programs will be watching with interest how events unfold.

Other Expenses
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The standing committee reviews the budgets of each department based on a breakdown by activity. In most departments, the activity breakdowns are small enough that committee members can get a very good sense of what is happening and how the budget is to be used. However, for example, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment has very few activities, despite having one of the largest departmental budgets in government. As a result, large pools of money are merely identified as other expenses. Under advanced education and careers, for example, the department shows $24,692,000 for other expenses, an amount that is almost as much as the entire operational budget for the Financial Management Board Secretariat.

Not only were there large amounts listed under other expenses, but the department was unable to quickly provide detailed information on what items were covered under those other expenses. Although the breakdown was subsequently provided, it was not in time to adequately be considered during the review of the main estimates.

The Accountability and Oversight Committee has previously recommended that a breakdown be provided of these other expenses.

The Standing Committee on Social Programs has requested that the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight provide the government with another recommendation on including breakdowns on other expenses as an information item when presenting the main estimates.

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the introductory portion of the report.

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife South, that the Report of the Standing Committee on Social Programs on the Review of the 2001-2002 Main Estimates be received by the Legislative Assembly and moved into committee of the whole for consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Other Expenses
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Other Expenses
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I request unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4) and have Committee Report 7-14(3) moved into committee of the whole for today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Other Expenses
Item 12: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4) to have Committee Report 7-14(3) moved into committee of the whole. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Committee Report 7-14(3) is now moved into committee of the whole for today.

Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Tabled Document 101-14(3): Accountability And Oversight Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight's Report on the 2001-2004 Business Plans. Mr. Speaker, this report contains the committee's views and concerns at the time of our review of the business plans October 10 to 24, 2000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 101-14(3): Accountability And Oversight Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Item 14, tabling of documents. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Tabled Document 102-14(3): Governance And Economic Development Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development Report on the 2001-2004 Business Plans. Mr. Speaker, this report contains the committee's views and concerns at the time of our review of the business plans October 10 to 24, 2000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 102-14(3): Governance And Economic Development Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Item 14, tabling of documents. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Tabled Document 103-14(3): Social Programs Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table the Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the 2001-2004 Business Plans. Mr. Speaker, this report contains the committee's views and concerns at the time of our review of the business plans October 10 to 24, 2000. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 103-14(3): Social Programs Report On The 2001-2004 Business Plans
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Merci, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 14, tabling of documents. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

Tabled Document 104-14(3): Inuvik Twin Lakes: A Profile
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to table a document, Inuvik Twin Lakes: A Profile. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 104-14(3): Inuvik Twin Lakes: A Profile
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Item 14, tabling of documents. Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for the first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Bill 19: Appropriation Act 2001-2002
Item 19: Second Reading Of Bills

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Nahendeh, that Bill 19, Appropriation Act 2001-2002, be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker, this bill authorizes the Government of the Northwest Territories to make operations expenditures and capital investment expenditures for the 2001-2002 fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 19: Appropriation Act 2001-2002
Item 19: Second Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Handley. The motion is in order. To the principle of the bill. Is the House ready for the question? Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Bill 19 has had second reading. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to committee of the whole.

Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters. Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act; Bill 19, Appropriation Act, 2001-2002; Committee Report 5-14(3); Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates; Committee Report 6-14(3), Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates; Committee Report 7-14(3), Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the 2001-2002 Main Estimates, with Mr. Krutko in the chair.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I would like to call the committee to order. We have Bill 14, Bill 19, and Committee Reports 5-14(3), 6-14(3) and 7-14(3). What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Dent.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I recommend that we first consider Bill 14, then perhaps move into general comments on Bill 19.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does the committee agree?

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

We will move ahead with Bill 14. Does the Minister responsible for the bill have any opening comments?