Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to continue on the same theme as Mr. Dent was on. In the area of health promotion and community wellness programs, I imagine that this is where much of our FAS/FAE prevention funding awareness and education dollars per program come in. Would that be the case? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Madame Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, Mrs. Ballantyne has some further elaboration on that question and Mr. Dent's question. Refer the question to her. Thank you.

Thank you, Madame Minister. Mrs. Ballantyne.

Thank you, Mrs. Ballantyne. Mr. Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am wondering then if that indicates that we are placing less of a focus in this area and we decided that we are either going to pay people less or use fewer people to do the same work possibly. It looks to me then, if the amount we are spending on administration and staff in this area is on the decline, are we then doing less? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Madame Minister.

One moment please. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. St. Germaine is going to answer that question. I will refer it to him. Thank you.

Thank you, Madame Minister. Mr. St. Germaine.

Thank you, Mr. St. Germaine. Mr. Bell.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So then I am to take it that this is no indication that we are now doing less with less and, in fact, I hope we are doing more with less and we found some efficiencies.

I guess I was a little, maybe taken back when, the Minister referred to there being also federal funding in a lot of these areas and the recent announcement of supposed federal funding in the area of FAS/FAE. I think that was $850,000 a year. I thought it was new money. It looked like it was new money when it was reported on the media. In fact I now understand it is basically the wind down of a program. These are dollars that are allocated across the nation and we stand very little chance of getting any of this money, because many of the projects have to be national in scope to qualify. It is pathetic.

I hope that we are not sitting around waiting for the federal government to ante up and fill in where we are unable or unwilling to put the dollars ourselves, because they will not. I think that everybody in this room knows it.

I think this speaks volumes about the importance the federal government places on FAS and FAE and other similar areas in health promotion. Again maybe the Minister can comment and reassure me that we are not waiting for them to step into the breach here.

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Madame Minister.

Mr. Chairman, no we are not waiting for the federal government to step into the breach. But the federal government does provide funding under various areas and certainly all funding is welcome when it comes to addressing the really enormous issues that we are facing and there is more specific detail later on in the budget with respect to federal funding. I will speak to that when we come to. Thank you.

Thank you, Madame Minister. The Chair recognizes Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Looking at the record and corporate services area and program delivery details, it is a total amount of $11,234,000 million there. And over on the next page, it is grants and contributions of another $4.8 million. It makes up $16 million. But on the budget summary, the total operation expense of directorate and corporate services is $25 million. A difference of $9 million. I am just trying to make sense of some of these numbers, because compensation benefits shows $12 million, grants and contributions is the only clear one at $4.8 million. It is identical to the detailed page of that grants and contributions section. Then other expenses of $8.9 million. Can I get some clarification on numbers? How that works? Is there some of the compensation benefits in program delivery? Is there other expenses in program delivery details?

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Madame Minister.

Mr. Chairman, on page 6-10, if you are looking at that, are you including the other expenses?

Thank you, Madame Minister. Mr. Roland.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I am doing is when I compare the numbers on 6-10 to 6-11 and 6-12, 6-12 is the grants and contribution section, it matches up with your grants and contributions section on 6-10.

When I look at your program delivery details on 6-11, of $11.2 million and try to compare it between compensation benefits and other expenses, if we can get some clarification there as to how that breaks down. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. St. Germaine.

Thank you, Mr. St. Germaine. Mr. Roland.