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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Braden raises a good point. We do recognize the importance of, when possible, offering multi-year funding agreements to organizations. It gives them the stability and the knowledge of what they are going to be doing. Also, it helps in their planning to know how long they are going to be funded for. I will ask Ms. Ballantyne if she has specific information to add to that. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this area has been a challenge for us in the past when we have been going through reduction exercises in government, for example, to try to offer the NGO partners some stability in terms of their own budgets and planning. Certainly we are very much aware that they would all like to get to a place where we could be offering them three-year funding agreements so they would be able to keep staff, guarantee staff and they would not have to lay them off come March 31st. This has been a big concern for NGOs.

Of course, it is difficult for the department in all cases to be able to give commitments on funding for which we have not yet had approval in this House. We kind of get caught in a catch-22 where it is hard for us to make commitments two years in the future when we have not gone through our own budget process yet.

However, we have had some success with our federal partners in terms of the agreements we administer on their behalf, for example, Brighter Futures, Building Healthy Communities programs. A lot of those monies go to support NGOs. In fact, a vast majority of that money goes straight to the NGO community. In that sense, in some of those agreements where we have demonstrated successful programs, we have been able, because we sign a multi-year agreement with the federal government, to offer multi-year agreements with some of those partners. Our goal is to try to expand that and make that more, particularly for the more stabilized and mature organizations that have a demonstrated track record of both good administration and really good quality of product. There are many of them out there. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Ballantyne has certainly pushed all of the right buttons for me. The track record is very much something that you need to back up. Speaking for myself, I would certainly like to endorse the plans the department might bring forward to say that when they do have a proven and a good relationship with an organization, I would be among the first to endorse a multi-year agreement and continue that support through subsequent budget years. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Directorate and corporate services. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This question is more in regard to monitoring and evaluation at the regions and community level responsibility, especially when it comes to collecting data and information. In the riding I represent, there has been a real increase in the number of cases of cancer and this latest case of tuberculosis.

They talk about a registry that is in place that is looking at diseases that are deemed to be of special importance. I am just wondering, how often is this information catalogued? Is there a public report that tells us the different circumstances if there is an increase in a specific area or a decrease? Is this information published?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the answer is yes, there is a list of reportable diseases. They are identified under the Disease Registries Act. There was an obligation on behalf of all health professionals in the Northwest Territories to report all newly diagnosed cases of certain diseases or conditions which are specified and listed. Cancer is one of those diseases, along with STDs, tuberculosis and a number of other communicable diseases as well as other diseases.

That information is published on a quarterly basis through a publication in the department called EPI North. That receives a broad distribution to all health and social services professionals in the Northwest Territories as well as to the general public who are interested. I believe we do distribute it to MLAs as well. That is certainly available and provides a way to be able to track the trends in all of these different conditions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Ms. Ballantyne. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Another area I would like some information on is do you, as part of the data collecting, evaluate where the diagnosis took place? Which hospital, by whom and what the diagnosis was?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Yes, Mr. Chairman. The answer to that question is yes, it is tracked by where the diagnosis is made. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Madam Minister. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As part of this tracking information, do you track the patient's visits, or frequency of where she came from, or how she got from one hospital to another hospital? I will use an example. In the case of Inuvik where several patients have been at the Inuvik Hospital, they were tested and took x-rays and what not. Only after they were either medevaced to Yellowknife or sent to Yellowknife, they are diagnosed in Yellowknife. Yet they were at a prior facility that this government is responsible for, yet the diagnosis was made somewhere and the patient is from a whole different region. Do you collect that type of data or information to evaluate exactly how the detection was done, by whom it was done and how long it took to detect that particular subject matter?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in answer to the first part of Mr. Krutko's question, if a patient were from a certain community or region and they were diagnosed in a different community or if they were diagnosed down south, the recording and reporting of that particular disease would still indicate where they originated from. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Madam Minister. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that could be the fault of us being able to monitor and also follow, by looking at the overall health care system, to see exactly if we are detecting these different diseases at the source or are we detecting it well after the fact? Time is a factor with a lot of these diseases. The sooner you catch it, the better off you are at preventing death. I am wondering if that could be a possible scenario that this government or this department puts in place, that you start monitoring the medical history of these patients.

Currently, they have gone to the different clinics or to the different regional health centres and then later on been diagnosed with a major illness. I am just wondering, is that something the department could look at implementing as part of the evaluation of the different services that are being provided? I have a real problem with that because of the different situations that have happened to date.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Two parts to the answer. One of the contributing factors, positive factors to early diagnosis is creating awareness for our constituents so they do take advantage of periodic checkups, annual tests where they would be indicated, just being aware of the kinds of things they can notice themselves and then follow up on. Mr. Chairman, if there are concerns about the diagnosis or the treatment a patient is receiving, there are means of taking those concerns to...I do not know who you take complaints to.

Mr. Chairman, as to where people could take complaints or concerns if they have questions about the care that they received, I am going to ask Ms. Ballantyne to elaborate on some of the avenues that a patient could take if they have those kinds of concerns.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there are a number of different avenues that people can pursue if they have concerns about the quality of the care or the quickness of a diagnosis that they have received. It should be stated at the outset that some types of diseases are difficult to diagnosis and some types of cancers, for example, progress at varying rates. It is often hard to tell how long something has been there.

However, if there are concerns, the first place people can go is to lodge a complaint with the boards. All the boards do have complaint processes and procedures in place. There is also the opportunity to raise a concern with the chief medical health officer and ask that a concern be investigated. If there are specific concerns about specific practitioners, both the Northwest Territories Registered Nurses Association and the Northwest Territories Medical Board of Inquiry also have provisions to review complaints by individuals about their treatment. So there are a number of different avenues of opportunity for people to have their specific cases reviewed if they have concerns. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to the regions and communities, they are basically evaluated by the board regarding the monitoring and evaluation, the health and social services trends and then the effectiveness of programs and services. Who does the evaluation of the health boards themselves? Is it the department? How often do you do it? Is there a report that is filed every year on the evaluation of the boards?