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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would encourage the department to keep a close eye on the potential for repatriation. I think it only makes good economic sense to improve services as much as we can close to home. Having a core group of clients might help provide services or the base for services to a lot of clients who are not in need of institution care as well. It could perhaps cut down on travel costs and improve the quality of life for a lot of Northerners.

I think that this Legislature has in the past expressed its support for repatriation. I know I would certainly hope to see this watched carefully. I would certainly support seeing -- whether it takes capital or increased funding for professionals -- more people brought back to the Northwest Territories for treatment.

We are seeing growth here. I notice in the budget books that we do not see any growth for early intervention. This initially caused me some concern because it appears from looking at the budget books, we are seeing dramatic increases in the cost for treatment after people are presented with problems, and no growth at all for preventative programs. I am pleased that the government has agreed to add $2 million, although I recognize it does not show up here, for the Early Childhood Development Program.

I would just like to again reiterate that while we are talking about that money, it is going to be important that Members of this House, through the committees, have access soon to what is proposed for that program, so that we can have input before the department or the government moves to spend any of that money. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not hear any questions, just comments, and we will take those into consideration. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like the Minister to expand a bit on the plan for the Early Childhood Development Program. Could she identify the program areas, is it children's programs, primary care, community health services, where the money will be targeted? I know they had a fairly wide range of initiatives.

I would also be interested if she could speak to the cooperative approach that is going to be used to develop a joint plan with Education so that, in fact, it meets all the goals and ties into the Healthy Children's Initiative and all these other areas where there is money for young children. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Maybe Mr. Miltenberger could narrow the question down a little. He wants more detail on the early childhood development and he wants to know how the two departments are collaborating on these efforts? Mr. Chairman, I would just like clarification.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are two issues. Could the Minister identify where this program is going to fit within the various program areas before us today, children's programs, primary care, community health programs. Since this is a joint initiative, could she lay out how she intends to work with the Department of Education to come up with a tight, functional strategy that is going to tie into other initiatives like the Healthy Children's Initiative and will flow on into literacy and all these other areas where there is money being spent for children? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We could speak generally to that, but it is the level of detail that the Member is asking for, to take the entire $2 million and allocate it to these particular things that are identified in the main estimates. However, if he would like a general overview, I could ask Ms. Ballantyne to elaborate further. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Just very briefly, Mr. Chairman, we provided this briefing to the standing committee earlier, so I will just repeat that the four main areas of investment will be: parenting and family support; pregnancy, birth and infancy; early childhood care; and learning in community supports.

Some of the specific actions being considered include universal screening for FAS/FAE, home visitation programs, curriculum-based education programs for teens about parenting, resource kits universally provided for all parents at pregnancy and other critical parent-child transition points, community resource centre pilot projects which could integrate existing early childhood programs so that they would be more effective for children and their families.

In terms of the relation with ECE, there are certain components of the Early Childhood Development Plan that obviously would be purely a health initiative. For example, prenatal screening for FAS/FAE. On those types of initiatives, we are working with health care professionals. For example, we are working closely with Dr. Nicole Chatel, a pediatrician with long experience in FAS/FAE on the pilot projects on the universal screening tool for fetal alcohol syndrome effect.

With respect to those projects which could be integrated, that is where we are working jointly with ECE to look at how we could enhance existing early childhood programs that ECE is currently running in the communities. In some of those communities, as you know, we also are funding a number of programs ourselves, plus the federal government is funding programs like Aboriginal Head Start. The integration aspect is one that I think is going to be a real challenge for us, because even our two departments are not the only partners. We will be laying out in the plan how we will work towards an integrated programming at the community level, which both departments believe is so critical to advance the effectiveness of the dollars that are out there.

That is a very quick overview. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can appreciate the complexity of this particular issue. I just want to make the case again, while we do our work with the children with us, ultimately we want to have children born healthy so that we no longer have to deal with FAS/FAE and the related problems and we can focus on strong families and giving them the skills and support at home.

If you want to look at a long-term investment, having children born healthy is probably, I would suggest, where we would like to have a lot of attention paid. How that is done will require a lot of work with social workers, nurses, and all these other folks. To me, that is the ultimate goal if we ever want to have a day where we do not have to talk about FAS/FAE in this House. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for those comments. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question to the Minister is can she give us an idea of how many children we are talking about who are in care at this present time? What percentage of those are aboriginal children?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Madam Minister.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just need one moment, Mr. Chairman. We do not have the exact numbers of children who are in care at our fingertips here. We certainly know what it is, we just do not have the details here. I can say that generally it is usually between 300 and 350 children in care at any time. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does the Minister have any idea of what percentage of the children who are in care are aboriginal children?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Madam Minister.