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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

With regard to the whole area of highways, we all know that it is going to cost some $500 million to conclude the Mackenzie highway system. Has the department looked at some sort of a make-work project or initiative so we could have these special projects in different communities? Instead of having to start at one end of the other, the communities up and down the valley may be able to do a portion of the road from their community south. Right now, we have the community access road project.

There have been some good endeavours done, especially for the people in the Deh Cho, where they have taken it on to themselves to find these unique ways of making these access roads into permanent roads. I think that we have to applaud them for doing that. I think they can show us if you put your mind to it, you can do it.

As a government, we should seriously consider looking at such an initiative so that communities that are up and down the valley are able to do portions of the road over a longer period of time, knowing we are never going to get $500 million overnight from the federal government. This is probably a way we can access funds through the aboriginal funding. There is $240 million that is there. We can work in conjunction with aboriginal communities to look at the development of human resources in our communities.

Have you considered looking at such an initiative to expand the community access roads in our communities, to start accessing creek crossings adjacent to communities using our winter road systems so we are able to use those roads a lot sooner? Also, for us to start doing these special projects using the scenario behind the community access road, but expanding it, similar to what was done in the Deh Cho with the roads there? Will the Minister consider looking at that?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I think I mentioned earlier that the department is working with and approaching this whole need for new roads. We are approaching the federal government from a different angle, which in fact is what we mentioned in our Highway Investment Strategy. We are suggesting that there is a possibility of constructing the highway system through small projects, based mainly in the smaller communities so that we actually bring work on the whole thing, but not from one end or the other, but rather as the Member suggested, working it from the communities and then out from there. That divides the whole project into smaller projects or contracts that the communities can handle.

This is basically the approach we took with Indian Affairs in approaching them through the Community Aboriginal Economic Development Program, where there is an involvement of the aboriginal community. There is a partnership whereby Indian Affairs, this government and the community would get involved in the project. It is similar to what happened on the bridge program. It would be addressed more to all-weather roads rather than the winter road program.

We are taking this type of approach to address the need to eventually have an all-weather road system. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Page 10-15, highways, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $35,141,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman, I have a motion.

I MOVE that the Department of Transportation must invest in the surface transportation link to all communities in the Northwest Territories for those communities that can be linked to the NWT Highway System;

AND that the Department of Transportation considers an all-weather road to improve the intra-community travel and road transportation services to all residents of the Northwest Territories and to be able to drive community to community;

THEREFORE be it resolved that the Department of Transportation carry out a highway strategy to look at the cost-effective intra-community travel and road transportation services to all communities in the Northwest Territories to connect as many communities to our highway system.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We will have to take a short break while we get copies of the motion distributed to the Members.

-- Break

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

I call the committee back to order. Mr. Krutko, could you read your motion into the record, please?

Committee Motion 39-14(3): To Revise The Highway Strategy To Incorporate Cost-effective Inter-community Travel (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman,

I MOVE that this committee recommends that the department of Transportation revise the Highway Strategy to incorporate cost-effective means of intercommunity travel and all-weather road transportation services;

AND FURTHER that the strategy be aimed at connecting as many communities as possible to the existing highway system.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

-- Applause

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We are on 10-15, highways, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $35,141,000.

Committee Motion 39-14(3): To Revise The Highway Strategy To Incorporate Cost-effective Inter-community Travel (carried)
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 10-19, ferries, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $4,906,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We are on to page 10-23, community marine, budget summary, operations expense, total operations expense, $221,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

This is something that I have been asking the Minister about. The communities along the coast that I represent depend a lot on their boats and what not that they use for whaling out in the ocean. However, we do not have a community marina in Aklavik. I am wondering what it would take for a community like Aklavik that depends on boat transportation not only within the Delta but also within the Beaufort Sea. Has the department done any studies to look at the distance between Aklavik and the coastal plain?

Sometimes you get a lot of movement of water, especially when you get a strong north wind. That does have a real effect on people's ability to store their boats. Because of that, is there a possibility of the community of Aklavik gaining access to this type of funding so they can build a wharf to deal with the waves that come in from the ocean?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I believe page 10-22 describes the purpose of this activity: construction of breakwaters, docks, wharves, in support of subsistence marine harvesting and recreation of boats. I think that pretty well addresses the Member's concern. I believe he is referring to tidal action and the effect it has on small boats. I think this is basically the purpose of this program, that the community can access this funding.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

How many communities have accessed this funding to date, considering we have been putting a couple of hundred thousand dollars in into each year? What is the chance of the community of Aklavik having access to this funding, especially for building a breakwater or a dock?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, could I ask Masood Hassan to respond to that?