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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

With regard to the cost of the bridge across the Peel River, the numbers you are coming up with is $30 million. The $30 million, what is that based on? Is that based on a two-lane bridge, one lane or four lane? How did you come up with the $30 million for that bridge?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Since we are going to deal with the bridge, I suggest we direct the question to Mr. Vician.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the mid-80s, the department did a preliminary costing study of the Peel River crossing and at that time, the estimates were prepared for that crossing. At the same time, it was identified that the benefit cost of the bridge indicated it was not feasible and those estimates were presented in the summary report. The bridge is not identified in the department's long-range plan. However, it was identified in the recent highway strategy as one of the future needs for the Northwest Territories highway system. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Regarding the strategy the Minister mentioned, I have been trying to get any reports or strategies from people in the department. I was not able to access anything. All I was able to get was a letter to the chamber of commerce in Inuvik which identifies that AESL -- it is an engineering consulting firm based in Edmonton -- were looking at rough numbers of a 700-foot crossing with a one lane bridge that would cost $2 million and a two lane bridge was going to cost $4 million. That is quite a difference between the numbers they are coming up with and your $30 million that you are estimating out of a 1980 report. That is why I ask the question of how you come up with these numbers. Can the Minister tell me why there is such a gap between the evaluation of this engineering firm versus the numbers you are coming up with?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I do not know where the Member's information is coming from. The only information that I am ware of that references the bridge is what the Member supplied to this House and table in this House, a suggested feasibility study done by the chamber of commerce in Inuvik and they put a rough price on the bridge of $2 million. Other than that, I am not aware of any feasibility study or any cost analysis done on that bridge.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe the deputy minister just mentioned there was a 1980 study, and that is how they came up with that information. So if the deputy minister is stating there was a 1980 study from the department and that is where your numbers are coming from, where is that study that you are talking about?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I will allow my deputy to respond to that because that was some comment he made earlier.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My response was in reference to a Department of Transportation preliminary costing and the study work that we did in the mid-80s in preparation of the 1990 Transportation Strategy, which was previously tabled in the House. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I would like to ask the Minister, is there a possibility of getting a copy of that study that was tabled in this House?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister state is his department working in conjunction with the people of Fort Providence in regard to their feasibility study that they are doing to look at the feasibility of building a bridge across the Mackenzie at this time?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, the council of Fort Providence did not approach the department before they approached Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development for the funding for a feasibility study. They did not approach the department. They did not get us involved. However, they are now approaching the department with regard to us supplying them information on their feasibility study. I would not actually classify it as working with the Fort Providence group, but we are working with their consultants in supplying them the information they asked us for. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. General comments. Mr. Krutko, I will give you one more shot at general comments.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I want to ask a question with regard to the response I received from the Minister on a particular petition that was tabled in this House about the building of an all-weather road from the Dempster Highway to Aklavik. It was also in support of the road system from Wrigley to the Beaufort Sea. In the statement, the Minister basically states that they support the Mackenzie Highway, the Canadian North coast and also the cost of an all-weather road to Aklavik, but must defer until the Government of the Northwest Territories is in a much stronger economic and financial post. How long does the community of Aklavik have to wait until they get an all-weather road in response to the petition that was tabled in this House?