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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to follow up on one other item from a discussion that Mr. Vician offered a few minutes ago, on the overall issue of highway enforcement and compliance, and the offer that the RCMP have given to look into this on a much more detailed level and come back with some recommendations. Do I generally have that understanding correct, Mr. Chairman? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Yes, Mr. Chairman. I have a correspondence commitment by the RCMP to look at this issue of highway enforcement. It is my understanding they are continuing their dialogue with the Department of Justice, the policing division, which has the mandate to administer the policing contract. However, the commander has communicated that he will have, and he has one unit, one detachment and specific staff looking at he overall approach to this. Through our motor vehicles division, our department has staff assigned to work with them on a committee. By the enthusiasm of the RCMP in this area, we are very hopeful we will see some improvement. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am encouraged by this as well. Given what we have now in the way of traffic, not only in the way of...we get a lot of attention because of the increased density of traffic on the winter road cycle. There is a lot more traffic in the Deh Cho and Sahtu areas and in the Mackenzie Delta. Of course, we are anticipating sustained traffic out there. When and if this Highway Strategy kicks in and all of our roads are exquisitely paved and painted, we are going to get a lot more tourism traffic up here, so I am encouraged with the initiative the RCMP have taken. I look forward to the support.

I guess my final question would be to what extent is the Minister or the department going to keep MLAs informed of progress? To what extent might this committee also involve other user groups, such as the trucking industry? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if I may, I anticipate the Minister will keep the committee fully informed, specifically the GED committee, with regard to progress in this area. I will just add that the RCMP has indicated that they were looking at the creation of a traffic enforcement awareness program for our highways, which is modeled after RCMP success stories in other parts of the country. The one detachment I referred to before were taking the lead in that initiative. We would continue to target that as a key result in our highway safety area. We will continue to track enforcement initiatives and what happens on our highway in terms of speed and other kinds of accidents. I believe we will continue to bring that information back to committee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a question in response to the department's answer to Mr. Bell's earlier question. I was listening to the answer, but I am not sure if I understood what the answer was saying. I am in possession of the same information that Mr. Bell has.

In my first reading of it, it appears to me the department has discontinued doing something that it has done to cooperate with the City of Yellowknife in terms of some of the data on motor vehicles registration, and also having a system in place where the registration may be denied when people have tickets owing or outstanding charges or something. There was a cooperation that was happening that has resulted in the city being able to get the job done without having to have their own manpower and such.

I have two questions. What has brought about this change? I do not believe there has been a change in the Access to Information Act. That is not a new act.

My second question is that it just appears to me it seems to be contrary to the partnership and working together that we are trying to foster. Will the Minister and the department consider revisiting this change in policy? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Those are my two questions.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I will direct the question to Mr. Vician.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Mr. Chairman, what has brought about this change is the continued review of the sharing of government information, or information the government has access to in terms of other parties. The legislation has not changed. However, over time as we have reviewed systems and we reviewed that information and the sharing of that information, the access commissioner has made it very clear to us that we need to use better care in both what information is provided as well as the security of that information once it has been given away. There is a risk that information falls outside of the security net of the GNWT and therefore could be used or fall into other hands, unless there are assurances of system protection or other types of processes.

About a year ago, the government did look at security measures with regard to its own systems. That is a key part. That brought about the change. There is also a change with regard to the policy of suspension of licenses on the basis of a failure of payment of by-law fines. That particular issue is being reviewed as we speak, as I mentioned earlier. We are going to continue to look at that.

In terms of the second question, would the department consider revisiting this change, I commit we have been dealing with this issue as we speak. The issue is a complex one as well. We hope that we can come to a mutual agreement with our other parties with regard to the use of this information, which we consider very sensitive. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to state that I appreciate the answer from the deputy minister. I could accept the fact that this may be a sensitive situation, but I would really encourage the Minister and the department to revisit this issue to see whether or not it is at all possible to rearrange the working relationship with the city.

I have one question. In the review that the department will undertake on this issue, I am still not clear as to what would have brought about this change, because access to information, not only in this jurisdiction, but it is not new in all parts of Canada. I am just curious to see what has brought about the change in the legal opinion to raise a red flag or to convey some sort of concern about confidentiality.

Mr. Bell had stated that this is not the trend that is being followed in other jurisdictions, yet they are subject to their own access to information acts. I would think there might be some room to manoeuvre here. I am not trying to challenge that legal opinion of the access to information commissioner, but this is not something that is only being done or is only being proposed in this jurisdiction.

I would urge the Minister and the department to review that legal opinion again and see if there is room to manoeuvre there. It appears to me that where the municipalities are all on their financial restraint where we cannot give them anymore money, the least we could do is not take away something they did not have to spend money on, where they will have to put their own money into it. I would really urge the Minister and the department to just revisit it with a view of putting it back where it was before. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this issue was brought to my attention just recently. As a matter of fact, I believe it was just today that I received a letter from the city in regard to this particular issue. I do have a briefing scheduled with the department as to how we can address the city's concerns, including having another look at how in fact the access to information legislation applies in this case. I can assure the Member we are going to have another look at this. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the area of motor vehicles, there has been much discussion about the economic up-turn in the Northwest Territories when it comes to mines and to oil and gas. There is definitely an increase in commercial traffic up and down the highways. Has the department undertaken any activity or work in the area of beefing up their operations in the area of weigh scales? I know the department has a vehicle that can go up and down the highways and do its checks out on the highway system as well. Are there any plans for increasing their monitoring and enforcement? Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, if I may direct the question to Mr. Vician.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

The deputy minister, Mr. Vician.

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Vician

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I concur with the observation. We are challenged in the commercial compliance area with monitoring of the trucking industry. In the past year, we did reopen the Liard scale, which had been closed for about eight years. We did staff it with a new officer. Thank goodness we had, because from both a compliance point of view and a revenue point of view, it has paid its way. We believe it has made sure that section of the highway is safe.

At this point in time, we are looking at the Dempster Highway activity. We are assessing that very carefully this year. We have two officers, two staff in the Inuvik region who provide this service. We are looking at it very carefully right now to see if we will have to beef that up for next year's activity load which, from all we can tell, is going to be quite different than what we have seen this year.

In the Enterprise and North Slave region, we have managed to keep our coverage quite good and have mobilized our mobile unit to ensure the compliance side is kept up.

It is something we are going to have to continue to look at but at this point, we think we have ample coverage between the North Slave and the South Slave for the time being. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.