Mr. Rattray.
Debates of March 6th, 2001
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
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Mr. Chairman, the original report that much of the activity is based on recommended that energy efficiency options be looked at and the government consider paying a premium for those options, which are perhaps more expensive but would help to achieve some of the greenhouse gas reduction objectives the government has. There was a reference in the original report. It is not the primary purpose of the exercise, but it is certainly related.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Delorey.
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are there any projects going on right now where a study has been conducted into energy systems in some of the schools, for example, that the department has decided to convert either from gas to oil or oil back to gas? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Minister Steen.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Rattray.
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Mr. Chairman, I believe the Member is referring to a situation down in Hay River where, I believe it is the Diamond Jenness School, one of the boilers is being converted over to a dual fuel system through the installation of a new burner. The intent of that is to allow the flexibility to use either diesel or propane to fire the burner.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Delorey.
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What would have been the reasoning for going back to diesel fuel from propane when that whole system was changed not too long ago actually? Now that the whole town is on a propane system, what would the reasoning be to go back to diesel fuel in that case?
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Minister Steen.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Rattray.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the incentive there was a financial incentive. There is a significant difference in the cost of operating that building under propane as opposed to fuel oil. I believe the cost differential is approximately $30,000 per year.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Delorey.
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is certainly a different figure than what I have been hearing about that. When everything was taken into consideration, the figures I hear are quite different than that. Is there an ongoing process to go back to oil in the whole school or in different buildings in Hay River? Is that the intent, to basically go back? If one building is operating cheaper on diesel rather than propane, then would that not be pretty well standard across the board? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Rattray.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this decision was made for that particular building. There is not a wholesale or across-the-board move to convert to fuel oil. I believe there is one or two other facilities which have the capacity to operate with either diesel fuel or propane. This will bring it to a total of about three. I think there is one other where there may be a payback on doing it.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Mr. Delorey.
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
When the study was done on this, at what point and at what price were the commodities, the fuel oil, compared to propane when the study was done to determine that it was costing an extra $30,000 to do it on propane? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Rattray.
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Rattray
Mr. Chairman, I am afraid I do not have that detail.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Delorey.
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
I just wanted to ask another question in the line of permitting. For commercial installations, when contractors take out a job or bid on a job to put heating systems in buildings, what is the difference in permitting between putting in gas boilers or if you are setting up a complete building on a diesel system? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Mr. Rattray.