I am not sure I understand the question. The committee would bear, in the normal course, the expenses of witnesses that appear in front of it. The committee has the authority to direct how it will deal with the tape, whether it will hear it as evidence, whether it will provide copies to the commissioner. I am not sure that there are expenses particular to the tape as opposed to the process generally, but I may not be understanding your question.
Debates of July 23rd, 2001
This is page numbers 261 - 313 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was process.
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Committee Motion 16-14(4): Recommendation No. 2 From Committee Report 5-14(4): Report Of The Special Committee On Conflict Process
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Peterson
Committee Motion 16-14(4): Recommendation No. 2 From Committee Report 5-14(4): Report Of The Special Committee On Conflict Process
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you, Ms. Peterson. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the question is in regard to what material the committee would be investigating, what exactly they would be using as material. If it is all published already, public, then we all know what is in there, but if there, for instance, is a request by the committee that the Member, the Minister appear and speak to the contents of the tape, do they still have the ability to discuss this in relation to the fact that she has withdrawn the application?
Of course, there is going to be associated costs with this. I assume that every request made by the committee for witnesses will be a commitment of some kind by the committee that they will pay the cost of the witnesses and their legal advisors to appear. Is that correct?
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you, Mr. Steen. I always wanted to say this. That is a hypothetical question, so...
-- Laughter
...the Law Clerk may answer if she wants, if she can tell the future.
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Peterson
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, in terms of witnesses appearing in front of committees, they do not necessarily, as a right, have an entitlement to counsel at the cost of the committee or have an entitlement to lawyers. There is some divided authority on that, but most of the authority indicates that not everybody gets to have a lawyer paid for by the process. They can bring their own if they wish. Nothing prevents them from doing that.
In terms of the Minister appearing with respect to the tape, there was an agreement by the Minister to attend in any event to deal with the facts that were within her knowledge that gave rise to the allegation of bias being made in the first place.
In a larger sense, quite apart from the tape issue, she is an individual from whom the committee expressed an interest to hear and who indicated to the committee she would be willing to appear.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. To the motion. Question has been called. A recorded vote was called for. All those in favour of the motion, please stand.
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Bell, Mr. Nitah, Mr. Braden, Mr. Handley, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Roland, Mr. Dent, Mr. Miltenberger.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
All those against the motion?
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Steen, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Allen, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Delorey, Ms. Lee, Mr. McLeod.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
All those abstaining?
-- Interjection
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. Being a new Chair and not knowing how procedures go, and using my judgment, for the best interest of the public I must vote for the motion.
-- Applause
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
The motion is carried, 9 to 8. Mr. Bell.
Committee Motion 17-14(4): Recommendation No. 4 From Committee Report 5-14(4): Report Of The Special Committee On Conflict Process
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Legislative Assembly instructs the Special Committee on Conflict Process to undertake its extended mandate as expeditiously as possible and to report to the Legislative Assembly at the next session, no later than October 23, 2001.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
We have a motion on the floor. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those against? All those abstaining? The motion is carried. Mr. Bell.
Committee Motion 18-14(4): Recommendation No. 5 From Committee Report 5-14(4): Report Of The Special Committee On Conflict Process
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Mr. Chairman, I move that the authority and the terms of reference of the Special Committee on Conflict Process as approved by the Legislative Assembly are hereby amended and extended with the adoption of this report.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those against? The motion is carried. Does the committee agree that consideration of the committee report of the Special Committee on Conflict Process is concluded?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Leon Lafferty
Thank you. I will rise and report progress.
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of the committee of the whole. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Committee Report 5-14(4), and would like to report progress with five motions being adopted, and Committee Report 5-14(4) is concluded. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you. Do we have a seconder for the motion? The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland, as seconder. The motion is in order. All those in favour? Thank you. All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is carried. Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, meetings tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. of the Cabinet House Strategy, also at 9:00 a.m. of the Accountability and Oversight Committee, 10:30 a.m. of the Standing Committee on Social Programs; and again at 12:00 p.m. of the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight.
Orders of the day for Tuesday, July 24, 2001:
- Prayer
- Ministers' Statements
- Members' Statements
- Returns to Oral Questions
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
- Oral Questions
- Written Questions
- Returns to Written Questions
- Replies to Opening Address
- Petitions
- Reports of Standing and Special Committees
- Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
- Tabling of Documents
- Notices of Motion
- Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
- Motions
- First Reading of Bills
- Second Reading of Bills
- Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Report of Committee of the Whole
- Third Reading of Bills
- Orders of the Day
-Minister's Statement 1-14(4): Sessional Statement
-Minister's Statement 3-14(4): Fiscal and Economic Update
-Minister's Statement 4-14(4): Update on the Social Agenda
-Bill 2,An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, the House stands adjourned until Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 1:30 p.m.
-- ADJOURNMENT
The House adjourned at 8:17 p.m.