This is page numbers 1019 - 1040 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was power.

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Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I take it from the Premier's response that it was not clearly worded in the August 6th directive that the Power Corporation not proceed with filing its one rate zone to the PUB. Is that correct? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The wording did not give explicit direction to the Power Corporation. What the Cabinet decision said was that all work on the one rate zone, which was underway, should be deferred until after a energy strategy is completed and that the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation should initiate action to implement the decision which, to our understanding, meant the Minister should communicate the decision of Cabinet not to proceed with a one rate zone system at this time to the chair of the Power Corporation. I think that is where the difficulty arose. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again the fact is that the wording was not precise that the corporation not proceed to the PUB with the one-rate zone. Correct?

Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is correct. The Power Corporation read it in a way that because they were not given specific instructions by the Minister or by the Record of Decision that they did not feel they got clear and concise direction, and that is contrary to the Cabinet decision because in Cabinet we felt the decision that we made was clear and we expected the Minister to communicate that to the Power Corporation. I do not believe that was done. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Final supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think Hansard will clearly lay out the response that the Premier just gave me, but right now, is it fair to say that the Minister could have even possibly given clear direction to the board if the directive was not precise in its wording? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister had indicated yesterday in question period that there was a lack of clarity and perhaps he could have addressed that issue at that time in hindsight and offered to make that explicitly clear to the chairman. As he said, in hindsight that should have been done but it was not done. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 352-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, further to my little story that I attempted to tell this morning, I would like to make this my final statement on this issue regarding the NWT Power Corporation. I do believe it is very unfortunate what has transpired, and as the Member for Hay River South indicated I am not sure if we are going to get any more clarity by further questioning. What I think is important is that we move on and that we attempt to have some sort of fresh start and fresh beginning here.

Mr. Speaker, if anything has transpired in the last two days of debate is that the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation could have shown more due diligence. I have heard him questioning the clarity of the Cabinet direction and the Cabinet document, understanding of the board, and if anything else his public statements about the one-rate zone have...

Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Ms. Lee, I am going to interrupt you for a moment here. I just want to reiterate what the Speaker has said. Your rules indicate that questions should be clear and concise. Members are going on reading from the past Hansards here which is taking a lot of time. I will not go back to this anymore. I am just going to cut you off and ask you for a question if this continues. Your question please. Ms. Lee, the floor is yours.

Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, given the lack of neutrality shown by the Minister and the confusion arising from all the debate, my question is to the Premier. Would the Premier consider reassigning the portfolio of the Power Corporation to another Minister who is less strong about this position? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Cabinet meets everyday. I will be speaking with my Ministers about the issue, the concerns the public has of it, the concerns by Members. I think it is important for Minister Handley and myself to stand here the last couple of days to account for ourselves. I think we have done that. It is now time to come to some sort of a resolution and move on. I think we are prepared to do that. I will do what is necessary to ensure there is public confidence in the way we do our business. The Minister will also act accordingly. Thank you.

Return To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just have one supplementary and I failed to mention the importance of a Minister responsible for various portfolios to keep the Members apprised of major initiatives. A one-rate zone application is something that Members were not made aware of in due time and I would like to ask the Premier whether or not he would give that consideration as well in determining the conclusion of this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said, many things were said and done in the last few months and weeks that require all of us to look back and reflect on the things we have done, things we should have done, things we have said and things we should not have said. The important thing is to be as accountable as we can, to answer the questions the best we can.

At the end of the day, we have been elected as a Cabinet to work together and my colleagues and I are going to find some time today or next week to decide how best to keep working on your behalf. Reassignments, whatever it takes to make the adjustments if necessary to keep the confidence and momentum going so that we have the confidence of you as Ordinary Members will be considered and discussed. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of Nwt Power Corporation Portfolio
Question 353-14(5): Reassignment Of NWT Power Corporation Portfolio
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 354-14(5): GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question this morning is for the Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, in relation to the national debate swirling about on the Kyoto question and whether our federal government and provincial governments can agree on supporting it.

We learned this morning, Mr. Speaker, that a long anticipated meeting is going to be delayed for a week. I would like to work my questions around that. Can the Minister tell the Assembly, what is the government's current position on the Kyoto initiative? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 354-14(5): GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 354-14(5): GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol
Question 354-14(5): GNWT Position On The Kyoto Protocol
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories, we have been supporting the Kyoto Protocol. The reason for that is that we are told by people in the North that the climate is changing. We see it with our own eyes in a number of different things; shorter winters, or longer winters with this fall, and the migration routes of animals are changing, melting of permafrost. We actually see the temperature changing. Our elders tell us that this is happening.

As the Government of the Northwest Territories, we support this Kyoto Protocol for trying to do something with global warming. This is caused mainly by carbon dioxide emissions, mainly from the burning of fossil fuels. The reason why we support it is because it is the only coordinated global plan at this time that exists out there to control global greenhouse gas emissions. The responsibility for doing something about it, it is the only vehicle out there to try to deal with this issue.

We do not see any other way of trying to deal with this climate change out there. The Canadian government has the task of trying to implement a plan and we are waiting for this implementation. The honourable Member for Great Slave mentioned that a meeting, an important meeting that was supposed to be held this coming Monday on the 21st has been postponed a week to the 28th because consultations are still going on. We are anticipating some sort of implementation plan at that time. Thank you.