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Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I do not know that I agree with the Premier's comment that this is a bad piece of legislation. I do not think that is something that is debatable anymore, but the process is very clear. The methodology that is set out to register guns is practically non-existent, even people that have access to phones, people that are well-educated, are having problems.

I cannot understand why this government would sit back and allow our people in the communities, especially the trappers and the people that depend on the land for existence, to supplement their food, to end up in a situation where they have a criminal record.

I will ask again if the Premier would consider appointing a department or some personnel to provide assistance. I do not believe we can sit back and stand idle while our people are getting in trouble. We had planned to intervene, we have time and we have the resources. Why can we not assist the people in the communities?

Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do recognize the tremendous difficulty people are going to have in registering their guns and acquiring licenses. Many of our people are now having difficulties getting ammunition to go hunting.

I have gone through the problem of registering the firearms I have, as well. And the paperwork that is made is not adequate, I think for many of us, because many, many people in the Northwest Territories have more than just three or four firearms in the house. The paperwork does not even provide for that.

Again, as you know our government is not getting much assistance from the federal government to meet the needs we have on roads and infrastructure and training to get ready for oil and gas and more diamond mines. We have been lobbying for two years. You add on the burden that we are facing of trying to get our people ready to meet the requirements of firearms legislation and it is just another cost that is going to be added on.

Right now, we are not cooperating with the federal government in trying to overcome the difficulties that this creates. At some point or other they have to be accountable and they have to accept full responsibility of this piece of legislation that all of us, as law-abiding citizens, have to comply with.

It is unfortunate. I agree it is not a northern attitude, to walk away from our people and deny responsiblitiy. At the same time there is no half measure. Either we are going to help all our people register their firearms, do their paperwork and accept that responsibility; there is really no other measure to take. I do not think at this time we are prepared to accept that responsibility. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I cannot believe I am hearing the Premier that he will allow a lot of people in the North because this government is unwilling to deal with a situation that they did not have a lot of say in.

I guess at the very least I would like to ask the Premier if he would meet with the representatives from the federal government to encourage them to provide these services, to either open up their firearms centres in Hay River and Yellowknife, if he would meet with them. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it is our duty to pass on the concerns of the Members on behalf of their constituents to our Member of Parliament, to the Prime Minister and to the federal government to make them aware of the hardship and the difficulty that they are creating, because they will potentially make a criminal, even out of my mother, who is almost 84 years old and still has a 22. I do not believe she intends to register it, but she needs it every time she goes out and she has had that since she was quite a young girl.

We do have a looming difficulty that is coming up in our communities and in our families. We certainly will draw the attention of the federal government to this major concern that is developing in our communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 20th, 2002

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Transportation, the Honourable Joe Handley. As I mentioned in my Member's statement, I have made specific suggestions for improving the condition of Highway No. 3 and the concerns about the priorities of the department.

Recently the Minister responded to a letter of mine that stated that I was welcome to contact the maintenance staff to discuss these issues. As an MLA I have no authority over departmental staff. I am puzzled as to why I would be directed to talk with staff when they rely on ministerial direction.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, why did he direct me to talk to the staff about my concern when he is responsible for that department? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have a lot of very experienced operators in road maintenance and road repair working out of our office and our garage facility here in Yellowknife for Highway No. 4 and Highway No. 3. I have offered the Member a number of times to go down with him to the garage and let's have he and I sit down and talk with these people who have that expertise and experience and who are working on that road almost every day.

The offer is open and I would enjoy listening to the debate between the operators and Mr. Lafferty. Thank you.

Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad the Minister is willing to come along with me, but it is not my job to go and give direction to his staff. That is his job. I would like to ask the Minister, all the correspondence that we have shared back and forth, has he ever at least once given direction to his staff to deal with it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, certainly I take all correspondence, all suggestions that we get from MLAs and from other people very seriously. With regard to how to grade a road, for example, I choose not to try to use my expertise for that one, but rely on the guys out there who have a lot of that expertise. I do not know that I have ever directed them to grade the road this way or that way. They know their business. If there is a difference with others, I would enjoy hearing both sides and would make a decision or give directions following that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister failed to answer the question, but I will let him go with that one and go on to another line of questioning. The Minister said 15 years of effective maintenance. It depends on how you look at it. There are potholes on that road that have been there maybe six to 10 years. If it was effective maintenance, then those potholes would not be there, so if it is not working, you should be changing how you are going to do the work. I know there are a lot of ways we can sit in the maintenance shop all day long, but that is not going to achieve anything, because they will not take direction from me.

I would like to ask the Minister once again, is there any direction he has given to his staff to change the way they do things? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, again I make the offer to the Member to come with me sometime, we will go over to the garage, talk to the guys, I will listen to the debate back and forth -- because Mr. Lafferty has more expertise on how to grade roads than I do. I have guys out there who know it very well. Following that discussion, I will give direction, but up until now, I have not directed them grade the road differently, other than to do it the best way they know how. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will do a different line of questioning here. Maybe I will get some answers. I would like to ask the Minister if there is any documentation of the correspondence between the Ministers and staff regarding the issues that I have continuously raised over the last three years? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, yes, we would have copies of all the correspondence. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Question 362-14(5): Improving Conditions Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 363-14(5): Seniors' Fossil Fuel Subsidy Program
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes. It is regarding my Member's statement. Mr. Speaker, right now, there are roughly 30 elders who reside in their own homes in Fort McPherson. Yet, Mr. Speaker, the information that I was able to get from the department is that 15 people have applied on the program. Mr. Speaker, that is less than half the people eligible. Out of that, 50 percent of the people who did apply were denied, and basically asked to require them to appeal. The appeals process, Mr. Speaker, is 30 days. Yet, Mr. Speaker, under the existing legislation, it requires that in order to determine the household income, you must use tax returns or pay stubs as the means of getting that information.

Mr. Speaker, the program that is at hand allows a person to apply to the household income test, which means you have to file under the Income Tax Act, line 236, which, Mr. Speaker, as we all know, the income tax is filed for the previous year. The program we are talking about with regard to the seniors' home heating subsidy is for this fiscal year.

I would like to ask the Minister, in regard to this injustice, what is the department doing to ensure that the program is being delivered on the year that it is basically implemented?