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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Any further recognitions of visitors in the gallery? Thank you. I will just say welcome to everyone who is here to watch their Assembly in their debates of today. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 20th, 2002

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Friday, I said I had hoped not to have to bring up the issue of the NWT Power Corporation again, but unfortunately, I was unable to ask my last set of questions, which I believe may go to the crux of the issue of confusion and fallout from the sequence of events from the past few months, which have led to the resignation of the board of directors of the Power Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, my question today is for Minister Handley. A comment attributed to Mr. Handley states that there was some confusion in what the Executive Council minutes meant. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask Mr. Handley, was he confused about what the Executive Council minutes meant? Thank you.

Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there was some lack of clarity in it. As a result, the Premier had lawyers in the Department of Justice provide clarification. That clarification was provided early in October and settled the matter. Thank you.

Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when did Minister Handley become aware that the NTPC board of directors was confused about the Executive Council minutes and what they meant? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I do not think the Power Corporation board of directors felt there was any confusion in their minds until they received direction from Cabinet sometime around October 8th, I believe it was. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Obviously there was some confusion in the minds of the NWT Power Corporation board of directors because they have clearly and public stated that they firmly believe they have the support of the Minister and of Cabinet in applying for the rate zone. My question again is when Minister Handley became aware of this confusion, what did he do? What steps did he take to clarify the confusion about what the Cabinet decision meant? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When the issue of what the wording actually meant was relayed to me, then I immediately directed the Power Corporation to withdraw their single-zone application. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is probably a very key question, because I believe that the public has a right to know the answer to my last question in order to understand Mr. Stewart's resignation and his comments in the media. My question is, what did Minister Handley tell the chairman of NTPC when he approached him in July to say that they wanted to proceed with a single-rate zone. What did the Minister tell him at that time? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I believe it was actually at the end of September, or sorry, the end of June, following a Power Corporation board of directors meeting, that Mr. Stewart informed me that they intended to file a single-rate zone application. My feedback to them was that they have the authority to file the application that they were choosing to file. I was not going to argue with him. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The Nwt Power Corporation
Question 360-14(5): Cabinet Direction To The NWT Power Corporation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for the Premier. I indicated in my Member's statement that the deadline to register guns is January 1, 2003, a date that is quickly approaching. In the Northwest Territories, we have many hunters and trappers who depend on guns. Also, at the same time, we have in our communities very little access to phones, and there are not too many trappers who have access to the Internet.

I would like to ask the Premier if he can tell me, prior to January 1, 2003, what action and support is this government willing to provide to those aboriginal people and all the residents of the Northwest Territories to ensure that their guns are registered? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as Members are aware, the federal legislation passed some years ago. It is federal legislation. It is the responsibility of the federal government to make information available and provide assistance, so that all people across Canada are aware of the law, the requirements to be in compliance with the legislation and assistance that may be required. There were special provisions, I think, that were provided for aboriginal people. Some years ago, the Government of the Northwest Territories had offered to work with the federal officials to make sure that our people were not unduly burdened with this draconian piece of legislation. The specific assistance that we provide at this time, I am not aware of. I will be passing this on to the Minister of Justice so that we can get proper briefing from the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs. Thank you.

Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we are all in the same situation as the Premier. We do not have a lot of information on this proposal because the firearms centres in both Hay River and Yellowknife are closed. It is very difficult to get access to information.

Most of our communities, the smaller communities, have limited access to phones and Internet. I would like to ask the Premier if he could tell me if we could at least provide some assistance through this government to have people gain access to phones or the Internet system in the communities.

We do have government offices. Currently they are not mandated to allow people to use their phones to make calls to the firearms centres in the south. I would like to ask the Premier to answer my question.

Supplementary To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, many Members of this Legislature, previous Premiers and Ministers, for many years they have lobbied very, very hard against this piece of legislation. We said many, many times to then-Minister of Justice Allen Rock, do not do it. It is a bad piece of legislation. It is going to create an enormous burden on the tax payers. It is going to be cumbersome, hard to implement and very costly and provide very little benefit to the people of Canada.

The legislation went anyway. We did offer on a couple of occasions to find ways to work with firearms testing and to date I am advised that our government is no longer assisting in any aspect of this legislation. It costs a lot of money to register guns, to issue licenses, to set up this registry.

The costs, we knew, are going to be much higher than the federal government led people to believe and we know the last figures that came out a year ago were proving that point.

This government is not spending any money or any resources to assist the federal government in getting people to comply with their legislation. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Question 361-14(5): GNWT Support For Firearms Owners
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.