Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.
Debates of Oct. 23rd, 2002
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Committee Motion 33-14(5): To Defer Consideration Of Regional Operations, Maca Special Warrant In Bill 26 (defeated)
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation or the Minister of Finance, are there any other expenditures that may come forth from the Department of Transportation in regard to this project from the Department of Transportation which may not be in this information we have in front of us right now. Thank you.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, no there will not be any other expenses incurred by Transportation. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With the materials that were taken from the airport in Tuktoyaktuk, will they have to do any landscaping to fill in the spot that was used to take out this gravel or is there just simply going to put it in a stockpile? Are they going to be doing any work upgrading the airport in Tuktoyaktuk since this is where the material came from?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, no they will not have to. The gravel that is being taken is from a base that was built there by hauling gravel in for a hanger during the DEW Line days. So when they take the gravel out they do not dig a hole, it will be dug back down to a level area. There is no need to landscape. Thank you.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We seem to get conflicting information here. In some of the information we received earlier the material and everything was coming from an old DEW Line site, and then we see here that you have to replace 380,000 cubic metres of material. Now, where did you get this material? Did you get it from the Transportation stock pile? Did you get it from the DEW line site? Where did you get this material? And if you took if from the DEW line site, how much did you pay for it and who did you pay?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, the gravel that has to be replaced is gravel that comes from the old DEW Line site hangar base right on the airport site. That gravel would have been transferred to us when the airport was transferred to us. DOT does not charge MACA anything for the gravel but requires that MACA replace the gravel that they take because DOT needs it for the runways. Thank you.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am very puzzled here. This last year, a Member asked about a gravel source that belonged to Transportation and it was told to contractors in the community that they could not access any of the gravel source because it belonged to Transportation.
Now, why is it okay for Tuktoyaktuk to have access to this gravel source that belongs to the Transportation department, but it is not okay for the community of Rae or the town of Inuvik? What is the difference here? Can the Minister tell me that?
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, the answer is very simple and very basic. We have an emergency. We have to rebuild a road. If we had given the gravel to, or sold the gravel to contractors to use in various projects around the town, we would not have had it to meet this emergency here.
The reason we are doing it is because that piece of municipal road had to be replaced. It is an emergency. The contractor requests last year were not emergencies. Thank you.
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you. I am really glad that the Minister said that it was an emergency because last year when the community of Rae asked for access to a gravel pile from Transportation it was an emergency. They had no source. They had to sand the roads in the winter, but it was not considered an emergency then. You call this an emergency. What is the differences in emergency? Is it an emergency when a Minister's riding is affected and not a Regular Member's? Thank you.
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Chairman, I do not know what the alternatives were for the community of Rae or whichever one Mr. Lafferty is referring to, but in this case, the road had to be repaired. There was very limited sources of gravel in the community, and this was one of them. There is no other gravel. The community and the contractors cannot haul gravel, except by winter road.
There is no alternative here, Mr. Chairman. The arrangement was made to loan the gravel to MACA on the condition that they pay for the cost of replacing it. Thank you.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Handley. Page 11, Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expenditures, Mr. Krutko.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is not debatable. It is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? The motion is carried. The Chair will rise and report progress.
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The Speaker
The House will come back to order. Order, please, order. Item 20, report of the committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey.
Item 20: Report Of The Committee Of The Whole
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Paul Delorey Hay River North
Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 26, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2002-2003, and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.