Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley is referring the question to Mr. Steen. Mr. Steen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think there is some confusion in the information in relation to whether it is Commissioner's land or whether it is private land, rather than whether it is outside the municipal boundaries. It is my understanding that the municipal boundary has always been six miles out from the centre of town and roughly three miles wide. As far as the information I have, this road is within the municipal boundaries, but a portion of it is on private lands and a portion of it is on Commissioner's lands. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am not too sure who we can believe here. The Minister is stating one thing and the document that he presented to the Members says another. I would like to ask the Minister exactly what is true? Is it your comment or the document that you presented that clearly states that the sewage lagoon is outside the municipal boundary?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Mr. Chairman, I already gave my explanation as to what I believe are the municipal boundaries of the hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk. It extends six miles outside of town. What we are referring to here is Commissioner versus private lands. That is what is being referred to in that information item. The road is within the municipal boundaries.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Handley, do you want to add to that?

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I think Mr. Steen has mentioned it, but I think that where the mix-up may be, and it may be in this paper -- but Mr. Steen did say that the sewage lagoon is on private land. It is not on Commissioner's land. It is within the boundary and it is on private land, it is not on Commissioner's land.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I hate to state that anybody is misleading the House here, but from the information received it says that the road lies partly in the municipal boundary on Inuvialuit administration lands. The sewage lagoon is outside of the municipal boundary.

This is the information that was provided by the Minister. On the one hand we are hearing the Minister say one thing, we are hearing the Minister of Finance say something else, when basically this information that we received... is the information that is being provided to us true, to the specific budget item that is in front of us?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Mr. Chairman, the information we have was provided by some staff within MACA. I do not know for sure, but they may misunderstand. They may believe that Inuvialuit -- there is no Inuvialuit land within the municipal boundaries. In fact, that can be the case, that is the case. I do not think there is any intention to mislead anyone. I think if anything, this is someone who wrote the briefing note who did not understand the difference between Inuvialuit lands and municipal lands and Inuvialuit could possibly be within the boundaries, so they made an assumption here. I do not know its relevance here. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, another point in the information provided, it says the Department of Transportation will directly manage the winter gravel haul. Who will pay for the construction of the winter road into this gravel source, which is 60 miles from the community?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Mr. Chairman, the winter road would probably be for at least 50 miles, the road would be the normal winter road into Inuvik, because Ya Ya Lakes is on the road to Inuvik. There might be a ten-mile section that would have to be constructed by the contractor, but basically it is all under the contractor's responsibility, whoever that is.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, could either Minister provide us with information on what the cost of constructing a winter road into this gravel pit will be so we can see exactly what the cost of that is, and will it come out of the $380,000 for the replacement of the gravel?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it is assumed here that the hamlet is going to have one contractor that will be hauling both sources, both for the DOT replacement and for the road surface of $420,000. So that one particular contractor would include in his price the construction of the winter road to the gravel source.

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also see in the information provided that $28,000 for the Department of Transportation for travel and accommodation is built into this amount. I would like to ask, is this a joint venture between the Municipality of Tuktoyaktuk and the Department of Transportation? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All of the funding, the $1.3 million, was given to the hamlet in a contribution agreement. It included whatever cost was associated with Transportation doing the engineering and the management of the road. Thank you.