This is page numbers 1141 - 1168 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Further Return To Question 394-14(5): Recommended Medical Treatment Policies
Question 394-14(5): Recommended Medical Treatment Policies
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs, the Honourable Jim Antoine. As I am sure the Minister is aware, Northerners have until January 1, 2003 to register their guns or else they would be breaking the law. I would like to ask the Minister if his department can assist trappers so that they can register their guns, getting into a contract with the federal government or whatever? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, perhaps I would like to start answering the question by going back a little bit. The position of this government has been that we were intervenors in a court case against this whole gun law. Since that time we have taken the position that it is a federal responsibility and that the federal government would be responsible for implementing and the whole issue of provisions to the legislation, which is a federal legislation. This is typical of the federal government, of introducing the legislation and backing away from it and leaving the jurisdictions, like the provinces and territories, to pick up that legislation.

The current position is that we still say that it is a federal responsibility. Like the Premier said the other day, it is a very costly operation to do this and we don't have anything in our budgets to take up that slack.

If the honourable Member is asking if we are going to take this on, then we have to look at it because it is a huge cost. Certainly our citizens are affected with this, and we certainly would approach the federal government to see how and what they are going to do about this issue. If they are not going to do it, then we have to look at how we can do it ourselves, but we certainly have to get some sort of funding from the federal government to do this. Thank you.

Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand where the government is coming from, but as we know, even yesterday, we see departments are very free with their special warrants. Now, I would like to ask the Minister if he can use one of those special warrants to help the aboriginal peoples in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a special warrant is approved by Cabinet as a whole. I have always tried many times on different issues to move things forward, but of course, this has to be approved by Cabinet. Certainly we will try it again. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I like the Minister's answer and I hope we can get an answer pretty soon. So if the Minister can get back to Mr. McLeod and I with the decision from Cabinet with the special warrant. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. This is the area of gun control, I suspect? Thank you. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, how I would like to approach it is to ask the different officials in my department to examine what is going on with the federal government in terms of complying with the January 1st deadline for registering guns, and what the federal government is doing. If they are not doing anything, I would like to encourage them to do something about it. If that doesn't work, then we have to pursue how we can assist our citizens in trying to meet this deadline. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he can get a special warrant, maybe he can fatten the pot of the harvester fund so the aboriginal groups can get their own people out there to help them registering their firearms. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think this is an issue for myself and Members of Cabinet, as well as for people in the North. We certainly want to make sure that they comply with this federal law now to register guns. If the honourable Member is telling me to do something about it, we are looking into it and we will come back with how we are going to approach it. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Question 395-14(5): Firearms Registration Assistance For Trappers
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement, I indicated that most of the smaller communities have limited access to information and services. We heard Mr. Lafferty and I spoke to the same issue about registering guns. We have difficulty in our smaller communities. We do not have the court workers. We do not have a lot of the different functions that are mostly, in my case, located in Fort Simpson or in Hay River or in Ottawa or in Yellowknife.

If you want to register guns, just to get the application form is a difficulty. We do not have a phone or Internet service. The seniors have always indicated they have problems with their old-age security applications. There is nobody in the communities to help them, or to even access a court worker or a legal aid service. You have to try to find some way for them to place a call in a lot of cases. It is using our phones as MLAs to contact public trustees, or even in the case of me being situated in Yellowknife during session, a lot of my constituents have a hard time faxing me because there are no fax machines readily available.

I would like to ask the Premier if he would consider assessing those communities with limited or costly access to information or services to determine what could be done to assist them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I understand the legislation, it creates quite a cumbersome process from what existed previously. You need to become quite knowledgeable with firearms and be able to fill out an extensive form, provide some very detailed information, take a test, before you can get a firearms license, and then also proceed to register every firearm that you have, and make sure that we have these available whenever and wherever you go with these.

The cost of implementing that is far beyond what the federal government had originally estimated, and so they have relinquished the field to no one. They simply have withdrawn and fled their responsibilities. The difficulty, as sympathetic as we are to the plight in the communities, is does this Legislature want us to expend money to take over a responsibility that is not our responsibility? If so, to what extent do you want that done? If there is a discussion that needs to be undertaken here, then we are prepared to have that. Thank you.

Return To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I am not sure what question the Premier is responding to. It may be a question I asked several days ago. My question was if he would assess the communities on how they could, especially the ones with limited or costly access to information services, how we could improve that. I was not asking a question specifically on the gun law. I was asking about how we could assist them with asking about how we could assist them in accessing court workers, trustees, legal aid, even their MLAs, and all these different positions would have a position or a mechanism. That was my question, not on gun control.

Supplementary To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mr. McLeod, yes, I have no control over how the Minister answers, but could you just re-ask the question in a little more concise manner, of the Minister? Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I cannot ask the question without repeating my preamble.

-- Laughter

To form the question, Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement, I indicated smaller communities have limited access to information and services. We have difficulties accessing legal aid or court workers or medical assistance. I did mention firearms offices in the south.

My question was to the Premier, if he would be willing to assess those communities that have limited or no access, or costly access, to information and services and see what could be done to assist them.

Supplementary To Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Question 396-14(5): Access To Information And Services In Small Communities
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you for your clarification. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.