Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Debates of Oct. 24th, 2002
This is page numbers 1141 - 1168 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I find it pretty ironic that with regard to the Arctic College facility in Inuvik we were told that the expense with respect to cost overruns would not exceed 10 percent of the project, but in this case we are talking about $15 million over and above the cost of this project. I would like to ask the Minister why is it that for some projects you cannot exceed the 10 percent, and on this project we are away beyond that to the tune of $15 million?
Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Justice, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not familiar with the contract regulation requirements of this project. Although we were consistently trying to find methods of reducing the costs and reducing the facility, we found through the analysis that it was not possible. Therefore, we remained consistent with the chronology of decisions that led up to the conclusion of this facility. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on December 5, 2001, Cabinet approved a $5.6 million budget increase with regard to cost overruns. Then we find out with respect to August 6 that there was an $8.4 million approval of the budget. On top of that, Mr. Speaker, the BIP process was waived with regard to this government, which is a policy of this government to allow for savings to the government.
I would like to ask the Minister, could you tell us here today how much money did we save by going through that process?
Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Justice, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With all due respect, I do not have those figures as that is not really in our purview as a department. We have to rely on the figures submitted to us by another department. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister tell us exactly how many beds will this new facility hold considering that there have been cuts in the different areas? My understanding is that the existing facility holds 151 beds and we were told in committee that there had been cuts in that area where the new facility will hold something like 138 beds. Could the Minister tell us how many beds will be in this new facility.
Supplementary To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Justice, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for corrective purposes it will hold 154 beds for the adults and 25 beds for the young offenders, for a total of 179 beds. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 398-14(5): Cost Overruns At The North Slave Correctional Centre
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.
Question 399-14(5): NWT Child Apprehension Statistics
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe
Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in my Member's statement child apprehension and child custody is a thriving business in the Northwest Territories. Since 1998 to 2001-2002, approximately a little over 200 children were put into child custody in the Northwest Territories. It went from 632 to 876 according to the numbers I received here, an increase of 35 percent, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to see if the Minister could confirm these numbers for me. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 399-14(5): NWT Child Apprehension Statistics
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Return To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not have the document that the Member is referring to, but I am assuming those numbers came to his hands from our department. Thank you.
Return To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Supplementary To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe
Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the same time you have a range of titles that the department uses for the types of custody they have. They have permanent custody which went up by 29 percent; temporary custody went up by 49 percent; apprehensions went up by 75 percent; supervision orders by 41 percent.
Right across the board the numbers are increasing dramatically, Mr. Speaker. In the 1960s, 70s and 80s there was a title for that. It was called the "child scoop". Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell me how much money is being spent on child custody by this government in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Further Return To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we spend millions of dollars on a yearly basis, both in the North and in southern placements, for children in care in dealing with children and family services issues. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Supplementary To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the number I have is $5 million, $5.5 million or so. It went from $4.1 million to $5.5 million since 1999 to 2001. That is a significant increase, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister where are these children coming from? We have the regional health boards that have numbers, but I would like to ask the demographics of the majority of the children in care. Are they non-aboriginal Northerners, aboriginal Northerners, are they a mixture? Who are the predominant people whose children are in our child custody? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Nitah, I guess we could narrow that down as to where they come from, generally speaking. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Further Return To Question 399-14(5): Nwt Child Apprehension Statistics
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I understand the question, the Member would like to know the breakdown of children in care by ethnicity. The majority of children in care are aboriginal. Thank you.
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