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Harmonization Of Income Support And Public Housing Programs
Item 4: Members' Statements

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak today on the changes coming. I believe the changes coming are to the detriment of our elders, disabled, and single parents, and people who live on fixed income.

Mr. Speaker, I am talking about the harmonization of income assistance and public housing.

Mr. Speaker, I have a real problem with the way this program is being delivered and being imposed on people without really understanding what the implications this program will have on our elders and our seniors who presently live on a fixed income by way of a pension, or a disabled person who may be in a housing unit who may have a disabled pension because of their disability. The same thing applies to senior mothers with children who may be on part-time employment and who may not meet the required needs that they presently try to offer to and exist on. In most cases, people are struggling out there to maintain the pensions that they get, the disabled pensions, and the income that single mothers get to raise a family and also try to find a job.

Mr. Speaker, I believe the timing of the implementation of this program, April 1st, is being rushed. I feel that it is unjust to not ensure that all bases are being covered and that an evaluation process is in place so that clients understand that they have a right to appeal. There is a Tenants Act which ensures that notification is given before any increases or any rates are put in place. What happens to those people who do not meet the requirements of the new amendments made with regard to incomes? Where do those people go in the communities that do not have housing available? Right now, the vacancy rates in most communities are at zero. People are on a waiting list of 70 to 80 people, yet they are overcrowded in houses where they have, in some cases, up to eight people living in one dwelling. Where do those people go?

Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister questions because I have a real problem with the changes taking place and being imposed on the people most at need. Thank you.

-- Applause

Harmonization Of Income Support And Public Housing Programs
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 4, Member's statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.

The Poverty Game
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you are aware, yesterday in the Great Hall of this Assembly, the Social Planning Coalition, along with the Standing Committee on Social Programs, hosted a session of the poverty game. Mr. Speaker, it is a board game in the style of Monopoly but, as should be apparent, it involves very little money.

The Social Planning Coalition approached the committee a couple of weeks ago with suggestions that we host this game in the Great Hall. We thought it was a great idea. The purpose was to heighten awareness of poverty and around the issue of income support. It also gave Members and other invited guests from the community a chance to see the kinds of decisions income support recipients are faced with on a monthly basis.

Mr. Speaker, it was enlightening to say the least. The character I played, a 36-year old mom with four kids, ran out of money two-and-a-half weeks into the first month.

Mr. Speaker, as you know, the Standing Committee on Social Programs has lobbied hard for additional money for income support. Last year, along with the rest of my colleagues, the members of the Accountability and Oversight Committee, we were able to see $700,000 in funding restored to the income support budget. Mr. Speaker, we continue that effort and tomorrow we will see if the government has been listening.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you indeed to all my colleagues who came out to support the Social Planning Coalition.

-- Applause

The Poverty Game
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Item 4, Member's statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Tribute To Kole Crook
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to pay tribute to Kole Crook who, as I am sure everyone knows, passed away on New Year's Eve. He was 27 years old. Kole was an extraordinary young man. This was so evident, as literally hundreds of people from many communities and all walks of life gathered on the Hay River Reserve to pay respect to his memory.

To say that Kole loved music does not adequately describe what he conveyed and how he made people feel when he entertained and performed for groups large or small. He communicated through his music.

He was an avid outdoorsman. The first thought I had when I heard that a small plane had gone missing with a pilot and three passengers, and Kole was one of them, was that if they survived the impact, Kole would be able to take care of them.

Kole was not attracted nor motivated by the comforts or convenience of modern living. He had a deep understanding of spiritual things and I believe that is what gave him the perspective of someone who seemed to have lived much longer than 27 years.

Kole truly had his priorities figured out. His life was a demonstration of his respect for his creator, his genuine love of people, his remarkable knowledge and reverence for the land, and his fun-loving sharing of his God-given talents, which included music and story-telling.

Kole will always be missed by his family and those closest to him, and to them we continue to offer our sincerest condolences. We thank them for sharing him with so many people. I believe there has never been a funeral which brought so many people together from so many places in the history of our Territory. Hopefully, this demonstration of how many lives Kole touched will sustain and comfort his family in the years ahead. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Tribute To Kole Crook
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 4, Member's statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

The Poverty Game
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the heels of the statement by my colleague, Mr. Bell, I would also like to talk about the poverty game that we staged here in the Great Hall yesterday. Along with other members of the Standing Committee on Social Programs and the Ministers of Finance and Education, Culture and Employment, I took up the invitation of the Social Planning Coalition to engage in this. My persona, Mr. Speaker, was a woman named Barbara who lives in Fort Good Hope. She is a 36-year old woman with four children; twin boys, age 14, a daughter, 10, and a son, 8. As Barbara, here is my financial situation, Mr. Speaker.

I receive $851 in salary, plus some federal child benefit, which was clawed back, by the way, by this government. I received another $1,045 in food and $125 in clothing from the Income Support Program. My monthly income was $1,665 with a family of five in a community where the cost of food is almost double that of Yellowknife.

What initially struck me -- and something that I learned through this game, Mr. Speaker -- was the complexity of filling out the paperwork. There were 18 pages that clients have to go through. It is really hard if you have lower literacy skills just getting all of these papers together.

It again forces me to taking a look at real life choices through Barbara's point of view. Whether to buy my daughter new boots for 20 bucks or used ones for ten. Whether to declare the $300 that I got from a boyfriend and thus cheat the system or try to borrow $20 for milk at the end of the month only to find out that my friend was just as broke as I was.

Individuals at all levels are facing more and more difficult choices, Mr. Speaker, as life becomes increasingly complex. It is particularly true if you are living on income support and on the edge of poverty. An increasingly complex set of choices and decisions have to be made everyday and it again reinforced the message for me for government to provide every opportunity for a sound education, and for each individual to take the responsibility to stay in school and take advantage of it.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the people from the social coalition for bringing this game to us.

-- Applause

The Poverty Game
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Item 4, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Condolences To Families Of Recently Deceased Tu Nedhe Residents
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

(Translation not available). Mr. Speaker, just a quick translation. I am happy to be back with you and my colleagues in the House. We do have significant work ahead of us in this session and in future sessions until the end of our term, but I want to look back and express my condolences to people who have lost loved ones.

Some colleagues have mentioned Mr. Crook and other members of the Northwest Territories. I could mention a few, but I will keep mine to my constituency. On behalf of Tu Nedhe, I would like to express my condolences to the Mandeville family for the loss of Dotty Mandeville who passed away recently due to illness.

We all look for examples of how to live our lives. I think Dotty was a great example of how to live, if you are a young person looking for examples. Kole is another one of them.

Recently we lost an icon in the CBC Chipewyan programming. Ms. Evelyn Cook, who has been providing Chipewyan language programming for CBC North for as long as I can remember, passed away on Saturday, very sadly as well.

You and I, Mr. Speaker, attended a wedding of her son who married his wife at the foot of his mother's bed in the hospital room. It was a very sad moment and at the same time a very happy moment. I would like to congratulate Austin and Susan on their commitment to each other and their willingness to do it in such an environment. I am very proud of them and I would like to express my sincere thankfulness to him and Susie on behalf of all the people of Tu Nedhe.

I look forward to discussing the major issues facing us in the next couple of weeks. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Condolences To Families Of Recently Deceased Tu Nedhe Residents
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Nitah. Item 4, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Ootes.

Youth Parliament Delegate Leslie Merrithew
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to extend my congratulations and my thanks to a young Yellowknifer who represented my constituency and my Ministry in the recent Youth Parliament. Leslie Merrithew did a fantastic job, as did all the other young parliamentarians who were here for the Youth Parliament, debating the issues that face us all here in the Northwest Territories.

Even though Leslie was the youngest, she certainly held her own amongst the others. She praised the Side Door for Youth, which is an important project here in my constituency, Mr. Speaker. She also provided a good explanation of the pupil-teacher ratio as the Minister representing the Department of Education, Culture and Employment.

It is great to see a young person such as Leslie having such a good grasp of the issues and understanding the intricacies of government programs. Leslie says that she really enjoyed her time here as a member of the Youth Parliament. She said it was fun and that the experience definitely helped her understand the issues here in the Territories.

Her stint as a parliamentarian inspired her, and I believe she is applying to become a page here in our Legislature and no doubt we will see her again. When she finishes high school she has an interest in mathematics. She wants to become a high school math teacher and possibly some day become a politician. Mr. Speaker, I hope this House will join me in offering congratulations to Leslie Merrithew and all the Youth Parliamentarians who served us so well a couple of weeks ago. Thank you.

-- Applause

Youth Parliament Delegate Leslie Merrithew
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 4, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.

Deh Cho Economic Development Conference
Item 4: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this Legislative Assembly gives us an opportunity as MLAs to speak of different issues in our constituencies. Mr. Speaker, there was a conference last week in Fort Simpson that was hosted by the Fort Simpson Tribal Council, which included the Metis Local and the Village of Fort Simpson. This was the Deh Cho Resource Development Conference.

The theme was assessing opportunities and maximizing benefits. This built in many concerns on current and potential development in the Deh Cho in the areas of oil and gas exploration, pipeline development, mining, forestry and our traditional economy with a focus on sustainable development.

Over the past few years, the communities in my constituency of Nahendeh, which is part of the Deh Cho region, have experienced a slow down. It is important to increase capacity so that everyone in the region and community can get ready and participate.

There is growing consensus that the Northwest Territories Delta gas reserves will be developed before the Alaska gas reserves and the people in the Deh Cho are sitting on 40 percent of the right of way. They want to concentrate on maximizing the benefits from any potential resource development such as pipelines.

They want to do this by assessing communities to identify any short-term or long-term training opportunities and initiatives. They want to ensure that the social and environmental dimensions of development are incorporated in all discussions prior to any resource development. There is a high level of interest by the people in the communities. They want to be involved and they want to have support for any development that is going on for the aboriginal people as well as the businesspeople in the communities.

All in all, it was a very successful conference. I think this is the first of its kind in the Deh Cho and Fort Simpson. I think there is room for a lot of other conferences in the future. It is the beginning for the people in the Deh Cho to see what they have to do to maximize the benefits from resource development. Thank you.

Deh Cho Economic Development Conference
Item 4: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Antoine. Thank you. Item 4, Members' statements. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

February 18th, 2002

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

At this time, I would like to recognize the Honourable Ted Hughes, the Acting Conflict of Interest Commissioner, in the gallery. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my pleasure to recognize Chief Rick Edjericon and Chief Peter Liske with the Yellowknife Dene Band.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. Welcome, gentlemen. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to take the time to recognize Chiefs Richard Edjericon and Peter Liske from the Yellowknife Dene First Nation. As always, I also recognize the people of Fort Resolution and Lutselk'e at this time. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a rare privilege for me to recognize just about my entire family in the Legislature today. Earlier my daughter Carmen and an exchange student, Karen Hatner, from Sweden, were in the choir from Sir John Franklin School. Sitting with us today are my wife, Valerie, and my mother, Esther. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

You did not miss too many. Thank you, Mr. Braden. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure this afternoon to recognize two of our pages from Inuvik Twin Lakes, Dwayne Drescher and Renie Edwards, and also three lovely ladies sitting in the gallery: my wife, Vanessa, and Betty and Sue. Welcome to the gallery.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to introduce Mr. George Tuccaro, who is now semi-retired and greatly missed on CBC Radio and Television. I would like to wish George all the best on his retirement and we will have to see you entertaining us here and there and everywhere, but you will be there. All the best.

-- Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mr. Tuccaro, the voice of the North. Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.