This is page numbers 547 - 596 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is this policy and procedure communicated to the public housing clientele in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Housing, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I would like to advise the Member and other Members of this House that there are procedures set out in the agreement. Since the LHOs are an agent of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, they are mandated to make the public housing unit tenants aware of those rules and procedures. That is normally carried out through the tenant relations officer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have constituents who are in that same situation where they disagreed with the local housing authority because of the suitability issue and they were not paying their rent because it was their way of saying I want better service.

Now, the Housing Corporation is saying, we are not going to move you. I want to address the cost factor. What is the cost factor if the definition is 30 percent of household income? Would the arrears owed by the client and the amount of money they would have to pay be factored into the 30 percent of total cost when they are taking advantage of the program that Mr. Allen just mentioned? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Housing, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I am going to attempt to answer this in the context that we allow the tenants who are in arrears to the LHOs or the housing association to enter into a debt repayment plan. This helps alleviate some of the problems of their ability to repay the arrears. We also do that on a case-by-case basis because not all tenants have the capability of repaying. Thus, we have a number of different methods to use to assist those tenants to liquidate their arrears to the local housing associations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister commit to us in this House, because I feel this is a major problem in the Northwest Territories, and with the potential introduction of the harmonization program, that the Minister find out how many clients out there in public housing are in arrears because of these circumstances and make that information available to me and Members of the House? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Housing, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, I am not so sure I can provide that specific detail because of the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act, but I will double check with our legal people to ensure that if we can, we will. If not, then I would like to advise the Member I will take the responsibility of checking into this. Thank you very much.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

March 11th, 2002

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Premier. The Premier had said earlier today that he needed to maintain his family and community ties as do other Members from outside of Yellowknife who are on Cabinet and that was the reason for home travel. I think all Members would agree with that. It is absolutely essential that the Ministers be able to get back to their home community relatively often so that they can maintain those ties.

That is why, for as long as I have been elected, the last 10 years, Ministers have been able to access 32 visits a year back to their home community. There was even some discussion in the 13th Assembly about reducing that, but we all agreed that it was important enough for Ministers to get home that often that we would not consider it.

What I fail to understand here is, why do Ministers need the ability to strengthen family and community ties more than Regular Members?

Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as a Minister in this government coming from my community of Fort Simpson, with the amount of time that we live in Yellowknife we need to go back to our communities as often as we can between session and all of the other duties we have to try and maintain a strong tie with our communities and our families.

We have to live here in this community, in Yellowknife and to maintain a strong family connection to our communities is very difficult and we need to try to get back to our communities as often as we can and maintain our ties.

This political life is not forever, we take it in chunks of four years at a time. Once we are done here, we have to go back to our community and pick up where we left off. It is good to maintain a continuous relationship with our families so once we go back we fit into our communities and our life as ordinary people after we have done our public service. Thank you.

Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Supplementary To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Nobody in this House disputes the fact that that is an important and essential part of representing the communities in the North, maintaining that contact. It is also important that Members have strong family ties.

As I said earlier, Regular Members sometimes spend over 150 days per year in Yellowknife because of their duties. They are not afforded the same opportunity to travel home as Ministers. The question remains. Why do Ministers deserve more trips than Regular Members?

Supplementary To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if it is a question of Ordinary Members not having enough trips back to their communities, then we can take it up with the Board of Management and request additional trips, and also through the Caucus. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Supplementary To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following along the family issue, I quote from the policy when it says, "it is unrealistic to expect Ministers and their families to break all their ties with their home community and extended family." I think we all agree with home travel. How does home travel for Yellowknife Ministers strengthen their community ties?

Supplementary To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The honourable Deputy Premier, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are a lot of reasons why this would be the case, to strengthen ties, but Ministers who come from Yellowknife need to develop and strengthen stronger ties with the whole community of the North, the communities. I think there are Members, seven of them come from Yellowknife, and I think there are people out in the communities who need to know them. The Ministers living in Yellowknife need to know our communities.

The only opportunities that Ministers from Yellowknife have is on duty travel. If they have a portfolio, that is the only time they can go is if their duties allow them to go into the communities. This way, I think that there is great opportunity for Ministers, even though it is not in their portfolio, to attend functions throughout the North.

There are different ways of doing it. You can use your own home travel as an MLA, but that is not MLA business. It is government official business to attend a funeral of a respected elder or a former colleague or a great event like a social event that you would like to attend. I think there is a great opportunity here to allow Ministers from Yellowknife to get to know people in the communities much closer, not only at official functions and meetings, but through social settings and other types of events that happen throughout the North.

We are all invited to them I think whenever we have a chance this gives it a better opportunity for Ministers from Yellowknife to go to the communities.

Further Return To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. Dent.

Supplementary To Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Question 202-14(5): Ministerial Constituency Travel
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, we have cut out compassionate travel for members of the public, but if you are on Cabinet now you can travel to a funeral, it sounds like. I think the public will comment on that. The Minister of Education has a reason to visit every community in the Northwest Territories. He has schools in every community. Almost every Minister has a reason to visit every community, and you can make sure your visits tie into community events.

I am afraid, Mr. Speaker, I am having trouble understanding the rationale here, and taking your wife along. Mr. Speaker, I was a Member of Cabinet for four years, I travelled extensively to federal/provincial/territorial meetings across Canada and I did not find one provincial jurisdiction that paid for the spouse to travel. We are proposing spousal travel. Why do we have to be like the feds and why not like the provinces?