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Further Return To Question 199-14(5): Proposed Bison Management Plan
Question 199-14(5): Proposed Bison Management Plan
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Premier and it follows on the non-portfolio travel. Mr. Speaker, we are aware that the existing home travel allows for 32 trips for Ministers and that allows them, especially out-of-town Ministers, to travel back to their constituency up to 32 times per year.

We also know that as Members of this Legislative Assembly that we are all entitled through our constituency budgets to travel to other locations whether they are in our constituency or other jurisdictions in the Northwest Territories or Canada, as long as we feel it would benefit our constituency and the work we do.

I have a hard time relating to what this non-portfolio travel will allow above and beyond that. What will this non-portfolio travel benefit for, beyond what is already there? Thank you.

Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as I have said, Ministers that are elected in Yellowknife, for instance, have no home travel provisions. It has been pointed out they can walk or drive home everyday and walk through their constituency, so it is no great consequence there. It also does not allow for Yellowknife-elected Ministers to attend important functions in and out of the Territory where it is in their interest to attend as Members of the Executive.

I pointed one out earlier, the Great Northern Arts Festival. There are other occasions when Ministers of government should attend functions because it is in the interest of this government that they attend. Sometimes it is in our interest to ensure that their spouses are there, it adds to the charm where there is none. Where there is need for social interaction, social grace, it always enhances it when our spouses attend. That is what it provides for.

It provides for greater enhancement of family, the promotion of family values that the Member believes so strongly in. We do not work ourselves to death on this side at the expense of our family and our children. It does allow for better work, more efficient work by our Ministers and by this government, still staying within the resources allocated presently. Thank you.

Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad the Great Northern Arts Festival is getting so much publicity today. It is a good thing. I refer again to constituency travel which allows for that if Members feel it is appropriate for them to be there. If a Minister is filling in on another Minister's responsibility or request, that department will pay that cost. I have a hard time yet to see who this would actually benefit.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier just stated that he would be doing this within existing resources. Is that correct? Within existing resources?

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

This change in procedures will not cost any more money. There is no additional money added or requested. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the other implications of this be in fact taxable if you are taking your spouse along on a trip? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as long as the trip is deemed to be on government business and duty travel, travel that is appropriate for a Minister to do under these procedures and it falls in the model of the House of Commons policy, I believe that would not apply. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Final supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to know if that interpretation then falls over all of the Members of the Assembly? If we are going to adopt the translation of the federal government and the interpretation of the taxable benefit, is that going to impact on all Members of this Assembly when it comes to travel of this government? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I would have to work with Mr. Hamilton to ascertain that. All I know is that Ministers like myself, when I wish to travel home to my constituency, I should not be burdened with the costs any more than a Minister from Yellowknife should to go home and see my constituents.

This is what I think we have achieved. We have also achieved that Ministers elected from the community of Yellowknife can attend important functions. Again, I use the Great Northern Arts Festival, but it could be a funeral of a great Inuvialuit elder that takes place in the future where some of us would all feel compelled to attend. A Minister elected out of Yellowknife can use that to attend an important function like that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
Question 200-14(5): New Ministerial Travel Policy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

March 11th, 2002

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of the Housing Corporation. I was going to refer to the harmonization program but my colleagues have done a well enough job on that. I think I will continue on with my questions of yesterday when it comes to the policy and mandate of the Housing Corporation.

When I asked the Minister about the mandate of the Housing Corporation, the Minister responded by saying that it was to provide suitable, affordable and adequate housing to the people of the Northwest Territories. Now, the interpretation of those statements, the Minister, when I asked about the interpretation of suitable housing, he stated that is the housing suitable for the people living there.

Now, let us get into the discussions of interpretation of suitable. When a client of public housing disagrees with the interpretation of the Housing Corporation's term suitable, who wins? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. I am not sure of the question, but the honourable Minister responsible for Housing may be. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to restate the definition of suitability, if there are enough bedrooms for the size of the family then that is to be deemed suitable. Now, I understand the Member's question is to have us assess the size of the family and whether the current accommodation they have is suitable for that family. We do have an LHO board that assesses those prerequisites. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when asked the question about which takes precedence, the Housing Corporation mandate or the local housing authority's policy, there are a number of people in the Northwest Territories who are blacklisted from other units that are more suitable to their needs because of arrears to the Housing Corporation.

The reason I ask that question is, whose interpretation do you take when it comes to the definition of suitability? The clients who may say that the Housing Corporation is not providing me a home that is suitable and the Housing Corporation is saying, we are providing a home that is suitable, therefore you have to pay the rent. The clients are not paying the rent. There is an argument there. Who wins?

Supplementary To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Housing, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
Question 201-14(5): Definition Of Suitable Housing
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a procedure set in place. That procedure is defined under the terms of the agreement between the LHOs and the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. The intent is for the LHOs to work with the client base which is the public housing tenants.

If there is a problem, they may appeal to an LHO board or housing committee. If it cannot be resolved on that level, they have the ability to appeal to the district director. If that is not suitable, then they may appeal to the president of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation on a case-by-case basis. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.