Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, we use a single individual going to a campus facility, whether it is their home community, and I will use Inuvik for an example. In their home community, in public housing right now, if they become a student at a college, I believe their rent is $32 a month. They would go and apply for student financial assistance for the rest of it. When student financial assistance does a review of that, do they not take into consideration what their rent situation would be? If they are in public housing, they are only paying $32 a month. That would be part of the assessment of what would be required? If they are requiring student housing through the campus, they would need three hundred and some dollars a month. Is that not all taken into the picture to come up with what that student would receive on a monthly basis?

Yes, it is.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That goes back to my original question about how has the department looked at addressing, if this does go ahead, the increased costs that would come into the picture for students who are in public housing? That would increase the cost to student financial assistance, or do you feel there is enough money in there right now that would come into the picture and they would qualify for that higher amount?

Yes, it will have an impact, but as I said before, if they are in a productive choice, there will be an amount of money that will be reduced from that. For example, if they are in a productive choice, they could have a decrease of $250 per month, so a lot of it will be offset.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I am going to school on this new harmonization and student financial assistance. Going back to school would be considered a productive choice, in all communities. We are encouraging back to school, so it would be included as a productive choice. Then they would receive a reduced amount of rent. We are getting a little bit complicated here.

If somebody is just going to school, it is hard enough already dealing with students who are trying to figure out student financial assistance. Now we throw the housing mix into it and say your rent is going to go up by $300 a month or more, but you are going to school, so it is a productive choice, so we will reduce it by $200.

What is the net gain here? What is the net difference?

I think what I should say to you is that we do not have all the details worked out. You have asked a very good question. We will have to take that into consideration and we will get back to you on this.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could I get a breakdown of what the $2,291,000 is in other expenses please?

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If you will just give us a moment here. Mr. Chairman, the directorate is $114,000 for materials and supplies and purchase contract services; policy and planning is $356,000 for employee benefits, BFAP, whatever that is, education leave; $16,000 for self-government; $138,000 for miscellaneous costs, which is travel, material, supplies; management services, assisting in maintenance and there is ongoing support for CMAS and computer chargebacks of $1,308,000; departmental contracts are fax copiers, mail courier, $210,000; and miscellaneous travel, materials and supplies, $149,000.

We can provide a copy of this to the Member, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted those numbers on the record. Thank you. I am quite happy the Minister has provided them for Hansard.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We know from the budget speech and the Minister's statements in the House that we have reinvested a significant amount of money that would have been otherwise saved under the Income Support Program. I do not think we have ever heard the details. I was wondering if we could get some detail on what this reinvestment is going to achieve.

We have heard there are going to be increases in some areas. How does it break down? What is it going to mean to people on income support? Do we have some of that information available?

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Ootes.