Page 5-17, petroleum products, operations expense, total operations expense, $860,000. Mr. Roland.
Debates of March 7th, 2002
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the committee's report, we raised some concerns with the petroleum products revolving fund and how that impacts on planning and so on. We realize as well, when we first went through the draft main estimates, the planned increase for fuel prices in the small communities has been put off. What does that do for the situation around the petroleum products and the delivery of petroleum products?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the end result of that decision is going to be that we are going to be about $700,000 further in debt this year. We increased the deficit of the revolving fund by about $700,000.
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environmental Audits
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What does that do to the legislated debt limit for the revolving fund?
environmental Audits
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that can bring us closer to our limit, but I will ask Mr. Aumond to elaborate on that.
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Aumond
We are projecting a loss this fiscal year of about $400,000. Next year, as the Minister stated, it is around $700,000, which would, in all likelihood, challenge the $5 million limit of the stabilization fund. Thank you.
environmental Audits
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As the reason that was stated in not going forward with the increased amount was we were able to purchase fuel and get it delivered to communities at a lower rate, that obviously, by the sounds of it, has not helped the situation. What is causing it? Is it a combination of higher costs at the communities? Fuel prices are still relatively low compared to when one of the big concerns in all departments was that the price seemed to be going through the roof.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just got cut off right at the end there. Again, the impacts of those decisions and the long-term outlook for petroleum products. Thank you.
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Member is correct. We did receive some better pricing for the winter road resupply. We let it tender in cooperation with the Power Corporation. We were able to get some better prices, not only for the price of the product itself but also on the transportation side.
However, we still have the barge communities to deal with. We are hopeful that the pricing we are getting now will be there this summer. However, we are also selling less fuel now than we did a year ago. It has been a milder winter. All those things considered, if things do not change, we are still projecting to challenge the debt limit of the stabilization fund.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Realizing that is a real potential, during the review of the department's main estimates, the Minister stated that he would be going forward to have some of that written off. Is that the intention, and when would the Minister come forward with information on that?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am planning to come forward with that in April. The plan is that because we reduced the number of communities that are involved in the program, it is only appropriate that portion of the revolving fund that would have been applicable to those communities would be written off by this government, because it is seen as not fair that you apply this cost to the communities that are still in the system, because in fact, they did not generate it. That is the overall plan.
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The Chair David Krutko
Thank you, Mr. Minister. At this time, I will recognize the clock and rise and report progress. I would like to thank the Minister and his witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, would you escort the witnesses out? Thank you.
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 2, Bill 7, Committee Report 2-14(5), and would like to report progress with four motions being adopted, and that Bill 7 is ready for third reading as amended. Mr. Speaker, I move the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Do we have a seconder for the motion? The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey, seconds the motion. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. All those in favour, please signify. Thank you. All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is carried. Item 21, third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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Deputy Clerk Mr. Schauerte
Mr. Speaker, meetings tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. of the Accountability and Oversight Committee and Cabinet House Strategy.
- Orders of the day for Friday, March 8, 2002:
- Prayer
- Ministers' Statements
- Members' Statements
- Returns to Oral Questions
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
- Oral Questions
- Written Questions
- Returns to Written Questions
- Replies to Opening Address
- Petitions
- Reports of Standing and Special Committees
- Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
- Tabling of Documents
- Notices of Motion
- Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills
- Motions
- First Reading of Bills
- Bill 11, An Act to Amend the Liquor Act
- Second Reading of Bills
- Bill 9, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2001-2002
- Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Bill 2, Appropriation Act, 2002-2003
- Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act
- Committee Report 1-14(5), Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight Report on the Review of the 2002-2003 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 2-14(5), Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development Report on the Review of the 2002-2003 Main Estimates
- Committee Report 3-14(5), Standing Committee on Social Programs Report on the Review of the 2002-2003 Main Estimates
- Report of Committee of the Whole
- Third Reading of Bills
- Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowances Act and the Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act
- Orders of the Day