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Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a problem with that concept and the way it is allocated, based on need versus population, cost of living and what not. Community recreation organizational funding should be based on ensuring recreation, sporting events and activities, to be able to offer a similar recreation package in any community. It does not matter what size it is. Right now, the way it works in our communities, you are lucky if you have a recreation officer. You may have different recreation facilities, but if you do not have people in place, which basically you need for delivering the program, the cost of administering the program is going to be the same regardless of where it is.

By using the scenario of population, one of the problems we have in a lot of our communities is that in order to attract good recreation officers to run your programs and services, in most cases, it is going to cost you more because of the cost of delivering these programs and services in the communities. Also, moving from the communities to the regional centres for different events, a lot of times our communities are forced to have bingos and raise funds through that process.

The cost of maintaining facilities in a lot of the smaller communities is probably higher than it is to maintain facilities in larger municipalities, where you are able to offset that cost by carrying it over from another pot of money or else being able to administer more buildings and facilities in that community.

I would like to ask the Minister, how long has this allocation or portion of distribution system has been in place? Are there any plans to change it?

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This amount of money, this $1,125,000, is part of the funding that was provided to the department through the business planning process for this year. This did not appear in previous years. The $825,000 I was referring to that goes to the community governments has been allocated this way for the first time as being presented here in the budget.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the deputy minister tell me how much money is going to the communities that I represent, Aklavik, Fort McPherson and Tsiigehtchic?

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With me at the present time, I have the regional allocations. We can get the additional information. I just did not bring all of the specific communities with me, but I can get that by region: the Deh Cho is allocated $250,000; the Inuvik region, $349,000; North Slave region, $186,000; Sahtu region, $179,000; and the South Slave, $161,000.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding the formula, you said it was based on a distribution system. That is why I would like to know exactly how much is going to be allocated. If you are talking about the Inuvik region, you are talking about the Beaufort-Delta and the Mackenzie Delta region, if the Sahtu are on their own. For the number of communities in the Beaufort-Delta and the Mackenzie Delta, it is almost three times as many communities as the Sahtu, yet they receive almost half of the amount that is going to be distributed to the Inuvik region. Was that taken into account, that you look into the number of communities based on the distribution of that money?

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Each community's amount is calculated separately and this totals up to these figures, so it is the basis of the size of the communities and the population and the cost of living factors in those communities.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Regarding using the cost of living factor, it was based on what, Yellowknife prices compared to other regions? Or was it based on geographical areas in the Northwest Territories?

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The cost of living index that is used is based upon basically municipal service type of costs, fuel. Other factors would be wages and those kinds of things that are built in as well. I can get the full statistical analysis that is done for us, I believe by the Statistics Bureau, and is used. It is based on a standard package of municipal goods. There is a factor then that comes up. For instance, for Fort McPherson, the factor is 35 percent over the base of Yellowknife, which is 1.0.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. The Chair recognizes Mr. McLeod.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister if he could tell me if there are any dollars in this budget earmarked for the Arctic Winter Games.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe there is nothing here for the Arctic Winter Games. This is next year's budget.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask if the Minister could tell me what the mandate of the Arctic Winter Games is.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I will ask Mr. Murray to respond to that.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Murray.