This is page numbers 427 - 478 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess we do have to take baby steps first, but I would like to point out to the Minister that his department is in large part responsible for the governance of communities and how they are operated through funding arrangements. I guess we could do the same thing for this entire department, not just this program. I do appreciate that he is going to look at it for this specific program. I would like to ask the Minister though, Mr. Chairman, how many recreational organizations is this budget funding in the Territories? Thank you.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will defer that question to Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Of the $1,125,000, $150,000 is being divided up between the two regional recreation associations. One is out of the Beaufort-Delta/Sahtu, and the other is the Mackenzie, which covers the North Slave, South Slave and the Deh Cho communities. The balance of the money is going to community governments and their recreation areas.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Nitah.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, a two-part question. The first part, how much of this money is going to administration fees going to the governments, whether it is the departmental government levels, administration levels and/or community levels? I would like to know specifically how much of the $1,125,000 is going to community governments for recreation at the community level? Another question I would like to ask, how much of this is going to the communities of Fort Resolution and Lutselk'e? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. None of this money is going to administration unless it is somehow going to that when the communities get it themselves, or the organizations. None of this new money is being used by the department for any of its own operating requirements. That was the first part of your question.

I do not have the figures here for the specific communities, but I can get those. This has come up from a couple of Members, so I will provide a breakdown for all the communities. I apologize, but I forget the middle part of your question.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Nitah.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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March 6th, 2002

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you. The breakdown between the regional organizations and funding for communities, the percentage of the $1,125,000 or the exact amount of the $1,125,000 going to community governments for recreation at the community level. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Of the $1,125,000, $150,000 is going to those two regional organizations, $75,000 each. The balance of $825,000 is going to community governments.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Nitah.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you. What exactly will the community governments be doing with this money? Does the department have a plan for this money? Do they have programs identified in the communities for this money, et cetera? I am trying to get an estimation of the Minister's understanding of sport and recreation issues in the Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Murray.

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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To a large extent, this money is being provided to the communities for them to set priorities with, as opposed to the government dictating how they should spend it. I know in a number of communities that money may be used to keep facilities open longer or to reduce the costs that they might have to charge people to use facilities. Other communities may use the money to offset particular programs that they want to run within that community. Some may use it to do improvements to facilities that they now have. We are not stipulating that they have to use it for one use or another. We want to make sure that the communities themselves have a very high level of involvement in setting those priorities. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. We are on page 4-37. Mr. Nitah.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a couple of additional questions in this area. Mr. Chairman, the department is saying that this $1,125,000 is in addition to money that is already there. These communities that are getting the funding from this budget, from this particular portion of the budget, is additional money that has been provided to communities for sport and recreation that is already there?

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Murray.

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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, that is correct.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Murray. Mr. Nitah.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand that communities are going to be at their own free will on how to spend the money, but what guarantees or what conditions is the department putting on this particular budget so the communities do not use this budget for things other than sport and recreation activity? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Mr. Murray.

Committee Motion 10-14(5): Funding And Program Delivery For Youth Programs (carried)
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Murray

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. These are contribution programs and as such, the community has to have a plan on what they are planning on doing with that money. As a contribution, they have to account for how those funds are spent as opposed to a grant that is made to any organization. Grants are unconditional.

In terms of contributions, they have to sign a contribution agreement. That would be specific to this pot of money, so that we would be able to track what it was used for, because this was money provided over and above ongoing funding to communities. We will have to be able to come back and explain in the Legislative Assembly, at standing committees or that type of thing, how that money was used by those communities, so it is going to be tracked.