Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Aumond.
Debates of March 8th, 2002
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The current price for heating fuel in Tsiigehtchic is 88 cents. There is no mark up or profit that PPD takes on this product or any product. Between the commission rate we pay the local contractor, recovering our costs of maintaining the tank farm, a loss allowance and applicable taxes, that is how we calculate the price. There is no profit margin on any of the products that we sell in Tsiigehtchic.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. They are saying there is a 30 cent cost difference from what it is costing you to what you are charging the consumers, so there is 30 cents there from your cost. That is costing you 30 cents on every litre to sell to the consumer in Tsiigehtchic, the purchase price or the going price you have in Fort McPherson. Are you saying that it is 30 cents per litre to basically deliver fuel to Tsiigehtchic, from the price you purchase it for to the price it is being sold at the pumps?
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Aumond
Yes, Mr. Chairman, that is correct.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
In committee, I raised a question to the Minister regarding the possibility of opening up to the community of Fort McPherson negotiations to purchase fuel from the Government of the Northwest Territories through a negotiated process. The Minister assured me they were willing to look at that.
I would like to ask the Minister, where is that and what is being done to start these negotiations?
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, my response was in relation to that fuel becoming surplus, whereby Arctic Dove would continue to undersell us and we would see ourselves stuck with this inventory. However, at this point in time, we have not reached that point yet. We still have the fuel on hand to supply Tsiigehtchic and to supply Fort McPherson between break-up and freeze-up. Also, the fuel has a certain shelf life and we are going to have to take that into consideration as well. We have not reached the point yet where we are stuck with the fuel. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Minister if he has any contingency plans for cleaning up that site and removing the tanks from Fort McPherson.
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have already undertaken to take some environmental monitoring, and we have some environmental audits completed for that site in Fort McPherson. When we come to the point where we would look at decommissioning the site, then of course we would undertake to clean up that site and remediate it back to its original state. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. How much is going to be spent to clean up the site and how soon will it be done?
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Aumond
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In terms of how much it is going to cost, we have yet to establish that figure, but certainly we will be responsible for remediating the site back to its original state. The timing of any remediation would coincide with the decommissioning of the site, which would include, as you stated earlier, removing the tanks and the rest of the infrastructure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Aumond. We are on page 5-17, petroleum products, operations expense, total operations expense, $860,000. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the department if that also includes the removal of the roughly two-and-a-half mile pipeline that goes down to the...
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Aumond
Yes, Mr. Chairman.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for several years, there was an environmental audit done by this government with regard to looking at different things that had to be cleaned up. That was one of the sites that was identified because it sits in a flood plain. There have been concerns raised by the community with regard to the location of this site. I would like to ask the department how soon and what is the cost of that clean up? Do you have a dollar value of what the cost will be?
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