This is page numbers 479 - 506 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just to clarify, the Hay River Reserve or Enterprise are not part of my riding or part of the tax-based community of Hay River, but Vale Island and West Channel are, which are two very distinct communities that are encompassed within the tax-based municipality.

I was wondering, Mr. Speaker, if the Minister could shed some light on whether during the block funding process that goes to the tax-based municipalities, are those small communities taken into consideration for extra funding for special projects within those small communities?

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not believe the small communities are part of the larger community block funding, because they are in fact considered a community of their own, and they receive funding for capital separately from what the larger centre would receive. So the block funding Hay River receives does not include any capital for the Hay River Reserve, nor would it receive any funding for O and M because the Reserve is still considered separately on their own. They are entitled to their own funding.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Delorey.

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if Vale Island in Hay River, which has a large number of kids now growing up there, want to have a sports facility and a community hall within that small group, because they are part of the tax-based community of Hay River, Hay River cannot afford to put one down there because the numbers do not justify it. Could the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs assist with special funding to address that issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will have to take that one back to the department for review. I will get back to the Member as to whether we can assist at all. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Delorey.

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to raise this issue because there was a paper that went around yesterday for Members for this special committee on small communities, and I put my name forward. I think it is very important that these areas be taken into consideration. I would like to ask the Minister if he will commit to reviewing this specific area of small communities within a tax-based community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Steen.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I can commit to reviewing this and getting back to the Member as to whether or not we can assist the small communities within the larger communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Question 180-14(5): Small Communities Within Tax-based Municipalities
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. Are there any further oral questions? Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to the opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motion for the first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Handley.

Bill 11: An Act To Amend The Liquor Act
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

March 7th, 2002

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha, that Bill 11, An Act to Amend the Liquor Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 11: An Act To Amend The Liquor Act
Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? Thank you. All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is carried. Bill 11 has had first reading. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Handley.

Bill 9: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2001-2002
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, that Bill 9, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2001-2002, be read for the second time.

Mr. Speaker, this bill makes supplementary appropriations for the Government of the Northwest Territories for the 2001-2002 fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 9: Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2001-2002
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the principle of the bill. Question has been called. All those in favour? Thank you. All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is carried. Bill 9 has had second reading and accordingly stands referred to the committee of the whole. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters; Bill 2, Bill 4, Bill 9, Committee Report 1-14(5), Committee Report 2-14(5) and Committee Report 3-14(5) with Mr. Delorey in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

I will call the committee of the whole to order. We have several matters to deal with; Bill 2, Bill 4, Bill 9, Committee Report 1-14(5), Committee Report 2-14(5) and Committee Report 3-14(5). What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Dent.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I would like to recommend that the committee continue consideration of Bill 2 and Committee Report 1-14(5), Committee Report 2-14(5) and Committee Report 3-14(5), to conclude the consideration of the budget for the Department of Public Works and Services. When we conclude that, we move into consideration of Bill 9.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Does the committee agree? The Chair will call a short break and come back to review Bill 2.

-- Break

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

I call the committee of the whole back to order. Before we call in the Minister and the witnesses I would like to clear up a point of order that was raised Thursday, March 7, 2002, by the Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Chair's Ruling

Yesterday, March 7, 2002, in committee of the whole, Ms. Lee rose on a point of order with respect to comments made by Mr. Bell during debate on a motion to amend Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly Retiring Allowances Act and Supplementary Retiring Allowances Act.

In stating her point of order, Ms. Lee alleged that the Member for Yellowknife South had imputed false motives to other Members in contravention of Rule 23(i) of the Rules of the Legislative Assembly.

Ms. Lee stated, and I quote from page 1058 of the Unedited Hansard:

I read from a repeated statement by the Member of Yellowknife South that somehow, anyone here who opposes this pension is doing so for a political purpose, that we are taking a stance that is popular to the public. We are taking this stance because...it is imputing motive. It is imputing why we are taking this position we are taking. That we are doing this because this is what the public wants, but really inside, in the dark inside of our little hearts, we are really wanting this money. I have a great objection to that.

I have reviewed carefully Mr. Bell's comments contained on page 1057 of Unedited Hansard. In speaking to the motion to amend Bill 7, Mr. Bell stated:

There are two things that a Member can take from this. You can vote no, condemn the pension and that way you will get the political upside and political credit for voting no. Or you can take the pension. I would suggest that possibly, in a politically perfect world, you could do both, which maybe the act of privacy would enable, but I do not think that is fair.

I can find nothing in Mr. Bell's comments stating, imputing or implied that suggest an imputation of false motive. Rather, Mr. Bell was simply stating his interpretation of the facts. Therefore, it is the ruling of the Chair that Ms. Lee does not have a point of order.

-- Applause

We will go on to Public Works and Services. Would the Minister like to bring in witnesses?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Does the committee agree?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Sergeant-at-Arms, can you escort the witnesses in please? Mr. Minister, please introduce your witnesses for the record.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my right is Mr. Bruce Rattray, deputy minister of Public Works and Services. On my left is Mike Aumond, director of petroleum products.