Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Debates of June 17th, 2002
This is page numbers 799 - 832 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Supplementary To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have, on our legislative list, amendments to the legislation that will allow us to clarify some of these issues to put in legislation, issues like the one we are discussing before this House, and to deal with other issues as well.
It is in the works. I am hoping that by the fall session we will have some information ready to bring forward and I ask for the patience of the Member. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, does he not have some avenue at his disposal whereby he could invoke some interim measure to deal with this situation in Hay River? I know it takes a while to change the legislation, but surely there is something he can do short of an overhaul of the legislation to address this specific issue.
I believe he may have at his disposal a ministerial directive regarding those boards that are not covered by the standard approach and I would ask, will he consider doing that? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I would be happy to consider the possibility of a ministerial directive. I would also be interested in and possibly suggest that it may be of benefit for the leadership of Hay River to sit down with me to possibly come to an agreement on an interim arrangement so it is something that is done through consensus and in a collaborative manner, as opposed to a ministerial directive to the community instructing them on how they are going to choose their representatives pending the resolution through legislation.
I will do that. I will check into that. I also ask the Member to consider getting the leadership together and I would be happy to come down and work through that process with them. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
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Supplementary To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Minister for that offer. We look forward to working on this issue with him. With respect to this vacancy that exists today and the appointment that will be made very, very quickly here, I believe that it may inadvertently involve whoever is going to take the chair of the health board.
I would like to ask the Minister, would he intervene and ask the CEO, because there is no chairman at this time, to take this collaborative approach with the appointment of this specific vacancy? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.
Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will do as the Member suggests. I will pass on the concerns and ask in fact if the board, under the Societies Act, should have and should be given the full information and that it should be the board that should be making the selection of the appropriate member and electing the chairperson.
The role of the CEO, as far as I am aware, is a staff person. It is a support role. It is to bring the information together to the board. The board representing the community should be making those decisions. I will talk to the CEO and encourage that approach to be taken. I will also assume that the board members who are currently sitting would also be expecting that approach to be taken. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
Question 272-14(5): Appointment To The Hay River Health And Social Services Board
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to pose my question to Mr. Joe Handley as Minister of FMBS regarding the Lady Evelyn Campground expansion project with respect to the handling of it and how it falls under the Financial Administration Act.
Mr. Speaker, the current protocol requires that if there are any changes to the scope or budget of a project, written notification is made to Members as well as the appropriate standing committee. I would like to ask the Minister, can he confirm whether that means an official letter to the Member and the committee or is a presentation of the main estimates adequate? Thank you.
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for FMB, Mr. Handley.
Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, the act is fairly general in that sense in that there should be notification to the Member. It does not speak to whether it should be in writing, verbal, or to the whole committee. If there is a substantial change, then the requirement is that we let the MLAs know. Thank you.
Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The information provided to me through administrative directive 3.02 is fairly clear. It requires that any project of significant change be done in writing to the Member and standing committee. It is obvious he is not familiar with it. I would like to know what the common practice is. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for FMB, Mr. Handley.
Further Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, I do not know the amount or significance of the change that was made on this particular project. Certainly, if it is a major change, then notice or advice would be sought through written communication. If it is a minor change we are making, then it may be done verbally. It sounds like the change that Mr. McLeod is referring to was major and I will certainly undertake to talk to Minister Antoine about that one. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The FAA requires that any change over $100,000 or 20 percent be done in writing. In this case we are talking about a change in project scope which is very significant, and almost $400,000.
I would like to know, can he tell me what the protocol is when the FAA is not followed? Does the project still exist as initially was proposed or is it changed? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for FMBS, Mr. Handley.
Further Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, I will have to talk to Minister Antoine about this one because I am not at all familiar with the scope of the change that is happening there. While the project may be worth several hundred thousand dollars, I really do not know to what extent it was changed. I will talk to Minister Antoine as soon as possible. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, will he go further than just talking to the Minister? I ask, will he conduct a review of the handling of this project? Mr. Speaker, I was not made aware of it. The community of Kakisa was not made aware of it and I cannot confirm whether the committee was informed.
I would like to ask the Minister, will he conduct a review as the Minister of FMBS rather than just mentioning it in passing to the Minister of RWED? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Question 273-14(5): Notification Of Capital Project Changes
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for FMBS, Mr. Handley.