Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are differences between the two lists. The one that we look after is much more current and much more active. One of the problems with NIHB is they are very slow to change, add or delete drugs or bring in new drugs. They are not very forward about giving us information about when changes have been made. They have also capped that program, so they are looking at controlling costs at every opportunity. So there is a difference. The one that we administer through extended health benefits is much more actively managed. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand it's not only more actively managed, it's also more comprehensive, so is the full coverage and the full formulary extended to those persons who are covered by NIHB as well?

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mrs. Groenewegen, did you want to finish?

Sorry, I just want to finish my question then. Do we extend the same full coverage to people who are covered by NIHB and then unable to recover that because their formulary is less comprehensive than ours? Are we picking up a big tab on the difference or are we just not offering it to the people who are covered by NIHB? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding is that it's not offered to NIHB clients. They are administered and receive the benefits of that program and not the other one. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So under our program, for every senior in the Northwest Territories, regardless of their income, regardless of how long they've lived here, that particular formulary includes things like vitamins? It's quite comprehensive. So what you are telling me is an aboriginal senior comes in and they would be denied access to those things at cost to our government. Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this point, as I indicated, if you are a recipient under NIHB, that's where you get the service and you get the service prescribed by NIHB. As we look at supplementary health benefits, these kind of very legitimate questions are going to have to be addressed because there is going to be the issue of two-tiered, three-tiered systems especially when we know that the NIHB is seeking to control their costs and it's a capped program and they are not very progressive. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That does seem a little unfair I must say for someone who may have technically lived here their whole life and perhaps be of modest means and they would not have access to the full benefit plan of Pharmacare offered to seniors in the NWT by this government. When was the last time the Minister or someone in his department raised this issue with NIHB, specifically the discrepancy between our program and theirs and encourage them to enhance their formulary for seniors? Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, That's one of the items on our agenda for the three territorial Ministers when we get to meet with the federal Minister of Health. I also understand the whole area of NIHB is one of the items on the table tomorrow with the Premier and Prime Minister. So it is an issue of significant concern to all three territories. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have no problem with the good services and products that are available to NWT seniors across the board. I am just concerned where that benefit is narrowed down for seniors who are covered by NIHB. I do think that's unfair to the government. They should possibly think of ways of correcting that inequity in the interim. It would be unfortunate to see seniors who are of aboriginal decent disadvantaged in any way by not having access to those products which may help them live healthier, longer lives. Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's a good point and part of our review in addition to the co-payments and other supplementary health issues will include that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Page 6-23, supplementary health programs, grants and contributions, contributions, total contributions, $9.849 million.

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