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community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of the other things that we saw on this other tour was companies that set up a network of homes for adults. They would require assistance with their daily living, so perhaps three residents might live in one home with one attendant around the clock on a 24-hour basis, and the clients would be out and about in the community, fairly well integrated. They might do community service, those types of things. That is another thing which looked fairly doable for the Northwest Territories. So I'm wanting to know what opportunities there may be for... I realize it may be difficult to find homes in some of the smaller communities; but in some of the larger communities, is there an opportunity for people to come forward with offers to do a similar kind of work either through NGOs or through some form of a company that could be established that could provide those services here in the Northwest Territories? Would the Department of Health and Social Services be receptive to proposals from that in order to bring these people back home? Thank you.

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, to some extent that capacity now exists in Yellowknife for sure. We have money for supportive living. We've identified that there are adults in need of that type of service identified by Mrs. Groenewegen. So we are interested in that. There's a three-pronged approach that we take that we're looking at under continuing care and facility living, supportive home living, and trying to expand support to homecare to keep people in their communities as long as possible and in their homes as long as possible. So, yes, there is an opportunity there. The hope, as well, would be that these supportive home living opportunities would exist in the community where it's needed, or as close to where the client or the person in need may be from. Thank you.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Minister give us an idea of how many adults and how many children are in care in placement facilities in the south at this time?

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I believe there's in the neighbourhood of 25 or so children in care down south, and a similar number, 20 or so adults as well. We're just going through the briefing book to find these particular numbers, but if my memory is correct that's approximately what it is. Thank you.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you. Just following up on those numbers, first of all. It's my understanding that these southern placements are not inexpensive, that in some instances where there's specialized care required for a behaviorally disturbed child, for example at Bosco Homes, that they're probably running $300 or $400 per day for some of these southern placements, and with that goes a fairly large complement of staff. Is that the kind of facility that the Minister has in mind when he talks about developing the resource of the Somba K'e, if the government could get their hands on that property again? Is that the type of facility he's talking about?

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, it would be the intent if we were successful to take the Territorial Treatment Centre program that is now there and look at moving it and having more bed capacity. Having more bed capacity would possibility also affect the options and opportunities we have in terms of programming. So we'd have to look at that as well. But the initial intent would be to just expand the beds for the current program. Thank you.

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

community Health Programs
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

So if that were to come about, then would the Minister anticipate that some of these 25 children which are now in southern care would return to the Northwest Territories? Thank you.

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Miltenberger.

community Health Programs
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that would be one of the goals. We would do our review of the case files to see who would be appropriate for that but, yes, that would be one of the opportunities we would hope to realize. Thank you.

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.

community Health Programs
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Definitely I would support that. As I say, I saw some children who were from the Northwest Territories who had some really profound challenges that they really needed this very high level, specialized care. But we saw others, adults and children, who I couldn't see any reason why they couldn't be cared for in the Northwest Territories. So I hope that the Minister will pursue that and be able to report back to us in the near future on how successful he has been in that, because it's something we've been talking about for a while. I just think it's more effective to look after these Northerners in the North, and I think it's also a lot more cost effective. Thank you.

community Health Programs
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. General comments there. We'll go on to 6-27, community health programs, grants and contributions, contributions.

community Health Programs
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 6-28, total contributions, $45.265 million.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 6-28, active positions, information item. Page 6-30, health and social services authorities, active positions, information item. Page 6-31, details of work performed on behalf of others. Page 6-33, detail of work performed on behalf of others. Total department, $23.172 million.

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

community Health Programs
Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We'll go back to 6-7. Mr. Dent.