This is page numbers 195 - 230 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen, Honourable Jim Antoine, Mr. Bell, Mr. Braden, Mr. Delorey, Mr. Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Joe Handley, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee, Mr. McLeod, Honourable Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Nitah, Honourable Jake Ootes, Mr. Roland, Honourable Vince Steen

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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

I wish to inform the House of the unavoidable absence of both our honourable Speaker and Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to section 48 of the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, I would request the House to elect a Member to take the chair as Speaker. Mr. Dent.

Motion To Elect Acting Speaker, Carried
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Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Clerk, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Weledeh, that the Member for Hay River North, Mr. Paul Delorey, be appointed Acting Speaker. Thank you.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Applause

Mr. Delorey, will you please take the chair as Speaker.

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The Acting Speaker Paul Delorey

I am honoured to take the chair as your Speaker today, but unfortunately it is under very sad circumstances. I only hope that I am able to be as impartial as our honourable Speaker. At this time, I would like to say that our thoughts and prayers are with Elaine, Tony and their boys. We will now move to the orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The Honourable Jim Antoine.

Minister's Statement 18-14(6): Territorial Premiers' Meeting With Prime Minister
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this morning Premiers Kakfwi, Okalik and Fentie met with the Prime Minister to discuss federal funding for health care in the territories.

The meeting was arranged because the three territorial Premiers could not support the health care reform package which First Ministers agreed to when they met in Ottawa on February 4th and 5th. The major problem they had with the

package was the per capita formula used to determine the federal share of health care funding which would flow to each territorial government. Very simply, our small populations meant that we would receive limited funding. In our case, the additional federal funding would have paid to run the NWT health system for one week per year.

Since the First Ministers' meetings, the territorial Premiers have made a strong case in support of additional federal health care funding and the need to address the per capita formula issue.

Fortunately, shortly after the First Ministers' meeting, both the Prime Minister and Health Minister McLellan acknowledged in the House of Commons question period that per capita funding does not work for the territories.

Also while there were no formal meetings, territorial officials held information discussions with their federal counterparts on how best to respond to the territories' concerns.

The media were used very effectively by the Premiers to make sure our issues remained before the Canadian public and on the federal agenda. Mr. Speaker, this is the background which led up to this morning's meeting.

The Premier has briefed the Ministers and asked that I report the following to the Legislative Assembly. The meeting was positive. In addition to the Prime Minster and Premiers, territorial Members of Parliament, Health Minister McLellan and the federal clerk were also in attendance.

In response to the need for more federal health care funding in the short term, the Prime Minister has agreed to set up a territorial fund with a floor of $60 million to be allocated on the basis of $20 million for each territory.

This funding is in addition to per capita funding which each territory will receive through the Canadian Health Care Accord 2003. The Prime Minister has directed that the Clerk of the Privy Council, the most senior official in the federal bureaucracy, act as his delegate and work with territorial officials on the details of the territorial health care fund. A deadline of March 31, 2003, has been set.

A second health related feature of the meeting included a commitment from the Prime Minister to provide health reform funding on the basis of proposals prepared by each territorial government. Minister McLellan has agreed to come north and meet with her territorial counterparts on this initiative.

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Finally, the Prime Minister has directed the Clerk to develop a process for addressing per capita funding inequities by April 1, 2003 and the fiscal challenges facing the territories generally by April 1, 2004. The Premier said he is most encouraged by the Prime Minister's commitment to have his Ministers and officials work with their territorial counterparts to find solutions within a set time frame.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier has asked that I convey, on behalf of Cabinet, our appreciation to the Prime Minister for taking action on the health funding issue and also the problem which the territories have with per capita funding, not only for health care but for a wide range of other federal government programs.

In addition, we want to thank our territorial colleagues, provincial Premiers, former health care commissioner Roy Romanow, our Member of Parliament and Senator for their involvement and support.

The support of this Legislative Assembly and the people of the Northwest Territories has also been essential to achieving our objectives.

Cabinet will continue to keep this Legislative Assembly and the public informed as events unfold. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister's Statement 18-14(6): Territorial Premiers' Meeting With Prime Minister
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The Acting Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

GNWT Pay Deductions For Mandatory Christmas Leave
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to rise to speak on the issue of treatment of the government employees. Mr. Speaker, some time ago, a decision was made by the 13th Legislative Assembly that there would be mandatory days off during the Christmas period. Mr. Speaker, the employees were told they would have to do with five days less pay. It would happen between Christmas and New Year's and many Members of the Assembly felt it wasn't fair for our employees to go without a pay cheque or half a pay cheque during that critical time of year when expenses are high, especially around Christmas. So we urged the government to make the change necessary and felt that they had come to a reasonable compromise. Mr. Speaker, the government began taking off 1.92 percent from employees' payroll to cover off that one week, so throughout the year they would have an equal amount every two weeks of the year, so that five days of mandatory leave would not be harshly felt.

Mr. Speaker, it has just recently come to my attention that our government has dealt with the employees in a way that seems quite arbitrary and unfair. We know the 1.92 percent is taken off from salary they have earned throughout the year, but what I have heard is if an employee is to resign or step out of this government before they receive that pay cheque in December, that they forfeit that money, that one week's pay, if they have been employed all year.

GNWT Pay Deductions For Mandatory Christmas Leave
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Some Hon. Members

Shame!

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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Now I understand the union has agreed and signed this, but still, Mr. Speaker, it seems arbitrary that as an employee the government would take some of my own money and rebalance my pay cheque so that every two weeks I would have an equal pay cheque. Then if I leave the government, whether I go south or move to another job in my community, I am told, thank you for your money, you can go on and we are going to keep it and use it for something else. It's arbitrary and absolutely unfair. It's the employees' money, it's taken from their pay cheque and it should go to those employees that pay. I will be asking questions of the appropriate Minister during question period. Thank you.

---Applause

GNWT Pay Deductions For Mandatory Christmas Leave
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The Acting Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

Community Self-government Liaison Officers
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Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the NWT Association of Municipalities, now called the NWT Association of Communities, was formed in 1967 and has stayed the course by adapting to the changing political landscape by providing a forum in which member communities can discuss and exchange information on common issues.

Mr. Speaker, over the last several decades, communities in the NWT have had to focus on land claims and what impact it would have, not only on individuals, but also on the communities as a whole. As aboriginal claims are settled, and aboriginal self-government becomes a topic, the same communities must now become informed on the impact that will have on communities. It is stated in the document, Securing Our Future, that the Government of the Northwest Territories must work with the aboriginal and community governments to clarify new roles brought on by aboriginal self-government.

Mr. Speaker, the association wishes to put action to that statement by taking up the challenge to assist each of its member communities in understanding aboriginal self-government and self-government implementation processes at the community level. With encouragement from the Premier, the association submitted a proposal to MACA requesting funds for the purpose of employing a self-government liaison officer whose duties will include providing communities with the information and support required to better understand the impact of self-government and self-government implementation may have at the community level.

This government now has the opportunity to live up to its commitment by supporting the proposal submitted to the Minister of MACA by the NWT Association of Communities. It's an excellent and timely opportunity for this government to develop a partnership with the communities for the delivery and communication of information on self-government. Who better to have as a partner than an organization with member community governments that interact with local residents on a daily basis.

Mr. Speaker, self-government may lead to a change in the way community government is structured and delivered. Therefore, it is important that we provide every resource to the communities in order that they better understand aboriginal self-government. Mr. Speaker, I stand in support of this request from the NWT Association of Communities and I recommend this government show its support by considering this initiative, an initiative that will result in informed communities and individuals. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause