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Question 112-14(6): Income Support Clients In Public Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Honourable Jake Ootes, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. As the lead Minister on harmonization, what is the total amount that ECE is paying for the income support clients who are in public housing today?

Question 112-14(6): Income Support Clients In Public Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Question 112-14(6): Income Support Clients In Public Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not the lead Minister on harmonization, however, the question is fair enough. I don't have that available here and I will have to take the question as notice. Thank you.

Question 112-14(6): Income Support Clients In Public Housing
Item 7: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The question is being taken as notice. Item 7, oral questions. Mr. Bell.

Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is again for the Minister of Health and Social Services and I was intrigued by his last response. I should be careful. I don't have his exact words here, and I will check tomorrow, but he indicated I think that in overheated markets like the one in Yellowknife -- I would agree with him -- there are many business opportunities, but that he's encouraging authorities to look at creative options for solving their housing needs in all communities. I am wondering if the Minister could indicate which authority he's encouraging to have a look at creative options for housing at Stanton. Thank you.

Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This issue has come up in discussion with the deputy, with some of the JOC members about the possibility of working with a foundation or an arm's length body that would take on the challenge, that could put up housing working in conjunction with the authority, knowing full well there are rental resources available through the staff. I have also had some discussion with the authority staff, CEO, in Inuvik while trying to take a similar approach. It's something as well that has some possible beneficial implications. If it was looked at in a broader scope to deal with some of the concerns I know that Education faces. Thank you.

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Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, it's clear we don't have an authority currently at Stanton and in effect, Mr. Speaker, the Minister is running that hospital. He has officials working out there to do that. I think some of the good ideas are going to have to come from the Minister's office. Would the Minister not agree that, in effect, he's running the hospital and that we are going to see some good solutions to meet housing needs? We can't wait for the next authority to be created. We have to deal with it now and the impetus is going to have to come from his office. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The plan has been made by myself, as well as some of my colleagues across this House that the Minister of Health and Social Services does have the ultimate responsibility for all matters that happen in the health and social services system. I take the Member's point, the issue of recruitment and retention, I agree, is not just one of pay and benefits. There are issues of housing. I take the Member's point. Thank you.

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Question 113-14(6): Housing Solutions For Health Professionals
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Oral questions. Mr. Lafferty.

Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
Item 7: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the honourable Jake Ootes, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. We are going to bring in the harmonization initiative. With any new initiative, we don't go in blindfolded or without any knowledge of what costs or what it is going to cost the government at all. So I would like to ask the Minister, what is it going to cost this government, and our income support clients? How much it is going to cost them for this new initiative?

Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, in the way it is designed, my understanding was the program is cost neutral to the government and revenue neutral to the government.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister again, what is the amount that it is going to cost Education, Culture and Employment to go into this initiative? I'm sure they did their work and they must have all the information if they are going full tilt into this initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, as I stated, it is cost neutral to the territorial government, and the Department of Education, Culture and Employment is revenue neutral as well, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to ask the Minister, is it going to be that high income earners are going to pay for this whole new harmonization and the seniors and elders? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Yes, the intent behind the policy and the harmonization thrust, Mr. Speaker, was to ensure low income earners would continue to have opportunities to access public housing and for those who are in higher income brackets, it would be income tested, Mr. Speaker, to charge rents to those individuals who are above a certain threshold and that funding would be taken in. In addition, we were looking at reducing rents for other individuals and the amount that would be taken in would help to pay for the reductions in the cost of accommodations. There are a lot of people who will benefit from harmonization with reductions in rent, small reductions, but there are many, many people who will benefit from it, Mr. Speaker, through that process. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Final supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 114-14(6): Income Support Costs Of The Harmonization Strategy
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll have to thank the Minister on that answer, but I asked him if he was pinpointing only a certain number of people in the North who will pay for the whole cost of the harmonization project. Right now, ECE is paying some amount. I would like to ask the Minister if we are sort of targeting just a small group of people to pay for the rent of all peoples in the North. Thank you.