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Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Most of our money that comes through the formula is money that comes from the federal Department of Finance and it's meant for all of the Northwest Territories. It doesn't identify Aboriginal people or other people, but there is other money that is received that is earmarked specifically for Aboriginal people. In health, for example, there is money that is clearly for Aboriginal health. The same thing applies with education. We administer some programs that are clearly earmarked for Aboriginal people. Mr. Speaker, there are probably other areas as well where we have money. I think in some of the economic development programs, there is money available to Aboriginal people that isn't available to anyone

else, the Aboriginal economic development fund, for example. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we put in a lot of safeguards in different areas, including affirmative action, including protecting the rights of our Aboriginal people. We have obligations through Aboriginal rights through treaty obligations and treaty commitments, yet we don't know what dollars are identified. We don't know what's rolled into our budget and we can't protect if we don't know what dollars are for what. I think it's time we clarified that. Would the Finance Minister commit to a procedure to break out what dollars are for Aboriginal people in the North?

Supplementary To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the FMBS, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I can undertake to provide a list of programs that are specifically for Aboriginal people and, in most cases, give you a dollar amount for those programs. There is other funding that we get through the formulas, as I mentioned, Mr. Speaker, that is provided to us through the formula. It's up to our discretion in this House to decide how it's being spent. So it's very difficult to break out a Transportation budget and say this much of the highway is for Aboriginal people and this much is for somebody else. The best I can do, Mr. Speaker, is break out some of the programs that are specifically for Aboriginal people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Final supplementary, Mr. McLeod.

Supplementary To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can recognize that it's a very difficult exercise to go through. I think it's time that this government, including the Finance Minister, sits down with the Government of Canada and spells out what is our jurisdiction and our responsibility for our Aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories, otherwise we will have Ministers walk away and we won't know and we can't enforce it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the FMBS, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as a government, clearly we have responsibility for all people in the Northwest Territories. In addition to that, there are some specific programs that are earmarked for Aboriginal people and we have a responsibility to ensure that money is spent for the purposes that the federal government provided it to us for. The other money is for everyone. How we spend it in smaller communities, for example, where the majority of people are Aboriginal versus large centres is something that we, in this House have to decide. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
Question 126-14(6): Funding Dedicated To Aboriginal People
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 27th, 2003

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up on my earlier line of questions on the NWT Power Corporation, I would like to know from the Minister if there are other communities that are facing the same rate riders that the community of Inuvik is. Thank you.

Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. .Speaker, my understanding is that all of the communities face the shortfall rider. It goes right across the Territories. Thank you.

Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is that shortfall based on the whole territory or is that based on the rate zones that exist today? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, that shortfall is based on the cost of operating the NWT Power Corporation as a whole. The amount of the shortfall rider is based on the rate application that was put forward originally in 2001. My understanding is that applies everywhere, whether it's hydro communities or diesel communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, is the rate rider after the power subsidy applied or is it taken in before the power subsidy is applied? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, in the diesel communities, including Inuvik, power rates are adjusted back to the Yellowknife rate. The Yellowknife rate is based on the actual costs here. So the shortfall rider wouldn't be applied in the Yellowknife case; it would have increased the costs in Yellowknife, therefore the indirect effect would be to increase the costs in all of the communities across the Northwest Territories, in the diesel communities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Final supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister in his earlier answer said this rate rider is from the whole Power Corporation funding situation and is applied to all communities. All communities, not just the diesel and gas, but all communities?

Supplementary To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker, the shortfall rider, in my understanding, going back to the original rate application, applies to all communities, to everyone. There is a bit of a difference in the calculation because all the diesel and gas communities are adjusted back to the Yellowknife rate for the first 700 or 1,000 kilowatts. That doesn't apply to the hydro communities which are on a lower rate. Thank you.