This is page numbers 405 - 436 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was social.

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Further Return To Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 127-14(6): Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. The Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 27th, 2003

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. I would like to ask the Minister if he can clarify his answer to Mr. McLeod's questioning. Mr. McLeod's supplementary said: "I would like to ask the Minister, Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Premier stated he would talk to Cabinet about withdrawing this initiative and the Minister had some time to consider that. I would like to ask him what his position is." In his answer, Mr. Speaker, I believe the Premier stated that he would speak with his Cabinet colleagues on this and they haven't discussed that yet, Mr. Speaker. I would like the Minister to give me clarification because I had a different answer from the Premier the day before. The Premier stated that he did discuss it with the Ministers. Thank you.

Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Premier, the day before, had referenced this item that it had been discussed between Members and the Premier and that he felt we, as Members, should ask Cabinet to discuss it as well, but we didn't get into the discussion, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Return To Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister did answer part of the question. I just want to ask for clarification. He did say we didn't discuss it. I would like to know if they discussed what they were going to do or did they say that they would discuss it later. I would like to get a clear answer, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was discussed that we would discuss it later, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
Question 128-14(6): Harmonization Of Income Support And Social Housing
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, my question is to the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation. I am trying not to get too muddled into the little details here. Looking at what the response has been so far, he stated that the power subsidy or the rate rider that is applied in Yellowknife bumps up everybody in the Territories because we are all back to Yellowknife - those who are higher than Yellowknife - so are the communities paying more than Yellowknife getting hit twice; once, because it has been blended into the Yellowknife rate and then we are being tacked on after that? Looking from the power bills from my constituents, you see it very clearly. It's like the $18 surcharge that happens. It's over and above. Thank you.

Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, rather than talking about the price per kilowatt and so on, just talk about what it costs for consumers and people who have to pay their bill. The shortfall rider is a flat rate that starts and is applied equally right across

the Territories to all consumers. There may be adjustments made as a result of the adjustment back to the Yellowknife rate, but I believe all of that is picked up by the territorial power support program. The amount the consumer is actually paying should be the same increase, to my understanding, in Inuvik as it is anywhere else. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister then explain, because he says it's applied equally across the board, and because this is a shortfall rider because the Power Corporation overall hasn't made money, are constituents of Inuvik paying more based on their own rate zone?

Supplementary To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I am not sure what the Member's question was, if they are paying higher than their own rate zone. I don't quite understand that. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Could you clarify your question, Mr. Roland?

Supplementary To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Right now in the NWT there are rate zones across the territory and that's what hit the fan a couple of months back about changing rate zones. My understanding is Inuvik right now falls into its own category. Because most are on gas and it's almost a 15 percent savings, consumers in Inuvik are paying a rate because the Power Corporation overall didn't make as much as they thought they would or is it because Inuvik has lost some money here? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, again, I will say the result of the shortfall rider on the consumer should be the same for Inuvik as it is for anyone else. Inuvik is already enjoying a 15 percent lower cost as the result of the gas fire generators than they would have if they had stayed on diesel, but most of that increase is balanced out through the territorial power support program. The end result should be that Inuvik is paying no more than its fair share as is all the other communities. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask the Minister if he could put that down in written form so I can share with my constituents how this rate rider affects them and is paid before the power subsidy is applied and on what costs based on the Inuvik rate that we are paying. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
Question 129-14(6): Application Of Electrical Power Rate Riders
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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I will put it on paper. I think that would be the easiest way. It is complicated. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Dent.