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Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I'm talking about your sales. Have you seen an increase or decrease in sales, and in which communities have you seen an increase and in which communities have you seen a decrease in sales?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

I don't have that information here with me, but generally, across the board, we are selling less fuel in all our communities, with the exception of maybe a couple like Wha Ti, for example. That jumps out as a community where we're actually selling more fuel. But generally across the board, we're selling less fuel in every community.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. In earlier discussions, the Minister mentioned that we are subsidizing some businesses in the oil and gas and mining sectors because they are purchasing fuel and gas, et cetera, from a particular community where petroleum products are being distributed. So I'm trying to see if there's a correlation between his statement that we're subsidizing the oil and gas and mining industry where the petroleum products are being sold. Do we have any way of tracking that, to show that there has been an increase of development in a particular community?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Where we may end up subsidizing the oil and gas industry, if indeed we are, would be through local contractors. We have been approached by oil and gas players up and down the valley on a few occasions, and we've made arrangements where we have provided them with fuel at a cost which we incur no loss on that sale. We can provide information on that, and we can provide information of what the sales are in each community on each product. That's not a problem either. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I just have another question regarding the sale of the different tank farms. As we know, there is fuel in the tank farm in Fort McPherson. I'd like to know, in regard to selling off the tank farm in Tuktoyaktuk, does that also include fuel products in the tank?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

March 11th, 2003

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The fuel that was in the tanks in Tuktoyaktuk that the government had was sold to EGT back in 2000 when they took over providing those services in the community. EGT now uses that tank farm -- or they lease it from us -- and they buy their own fuel and put it in there. So the only thing we're talking about selling is the infrastructure and the land that the infrastructure sits on. Thank you.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Let me get this clear. They purchased the fuel from you, or were they the agent to sell the fuel product that was in that tank which this government paid for? Were they the agent that delivered that fuel product, or did they buy the fuel outright for a set amount? What was the cost that they purchased that fuel for outright?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We buy the fuel and we sell it to EGT for what it costs us. Thank you.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Was the fuel paid for in one lump sum, or was it paid for over a 12-month period? Was it paid through a monthly installment basically on sales, or was it paid for upfront because that's my understanding? So I'd like to ask, for the record, could you clarify that?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. EGT provides for the payment of that fuel in one lump sum payment. Thank you.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

In regards to the tank farm in Fort McPherson, there are fuel products in there. Could you tell me exactly how much fuel products are still in that tank farm at the present time, and will those fuel products... Well, maybe you can just answer the first question. How much product is still in that fuel tank in Fort McPherson and exactly what's the value of that?

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Aumond.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Aumond

I don't have the exact figure to date, but it would be safe to say there's about 1.5 million litres worth of diesel in the tank for which we have come to an agreement with the local agent fuel provider in Fort McPherson. So in about a year from now, that fuel should have been consumed in the community as sold to the local distributor. Thank you.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 10-14(6) To Extend The Three-year Replacement Cycle For Desktop Computers, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

My other question was what's the value of 1.5 million litres of fuel sitting in those fuel tanks?