This is page numbers 899 - 928 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Further Return To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, in the past there was never that much consumption that we had to use the full capacity of the tanks. Because of the price related to whether you buy last year or whether you buy this year, it makes quite a difference, particularly if the price drops, then you do not have to have so much in the fuel tank that is rated at last year's cost. Of course, it would reflect the overall price of fuel for the community. That is why Public Works and Services had not been filling the tanks to capacity.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, your next supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if the Department of Public Works and Services has some way of determining the price of fuel in the future, maybe they should share it with investors in the North so that we can all benefit from it. Mr. Speaker, I am starting to question the ability of the Minister and his department to plan effectively for our communities. We have dust control problems, we have fuel problems now. I am going to ask the Minister now, will he commit to his department doing a study on the needs of the community? Not just fill up the tanks. Maybe there is more work that is done in the community that is going to require more fuel. Do we have enough capacity in that community to meet the needs of the future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

Further Return To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have already discussed this with the department. They have advised me that if the tanks were filled to capacity they expect that they would be able to service the community for the year. However, they are prepared to bring in an extra 10,000 gallon tank if that's necessary. A self-supporting tank with, I forget what it is called, but its own skirting. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Your final supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, willing the department the plans, the department was scheduled to move the tanks to a different location this summer. Are they still planning to follow through with that commitment? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 294-14(6): Fuel Shortage In Lutselk'e
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is part of the plan. Public Works and Services is going to be reviewing whether we are going to relocate the tanks and where to. At the same time, there might be some plan in place that we are going to put towards expansion of the capacity in the community as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Ms. Lee, you have a Point of Order.

Point of Order

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise on a Point of Order under the rules of the debate in the House, 23(h), (i) and (j). Mr. Speaker, these rules speak to the Member's right to raise a Point of Order where a Member is making allegations against another Member or House officer or witness. That is Rule 23(h). Rule 23(i) reads, where a Member imputes false or hidden motives to another Member. Rule 23(j) states where a Member charges another Member with uttering a deliberate falsehood.

Mr. Speaker, I do not know where you might consider this issue, but I raise a Point of Order on what Minister Miltenberger stated. Mr. Speaker, Minister Miltenberger in answering my questions, stated that I was sending out misleading information or falsehood, or words to that effect, that I was unduly scaring the public out there when I was making a statement about what my constituent had said and she was interviewed in the paper. Yet when he was answering to the question to Mr. Bell -- I wrote it down and I don't know if I have the exact quote -- he said there was a concern raised by the general practitioners about the specialist locum and that he has just dealt with that issue at noon today. So the Minister just admitted that there was a concern expressed.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Ms. Lee, the Point of Order, you were on it there before, but it seems to have gone astray here. What exactly is your Point of Order?

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If you could give me, I mean, Mr. Speaker, I urge you to listen to my Point of Order. I am trying to explain my Point of Order and that is, in answering my questions about the concerns I had, the Minister said there was no problem and that I was somehow deliberately or unintentionally or intentionally misleading the public into thinking there was a problem with the general practitioners. Yet when he was answering this question, he said that there was a concern raised by the general practitioners and that he dealt with it at noon today. So how could he have dealt with it if there was no problem?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Order in the House, please. The honourable Member has the floor. She has a Point of Order that she is trying to get across and the chair would like to hear that Point of Order. So I cannot hear it if Members across are interfering. Thank you, Ms. Lee, I have heard. Do you have anything more to say on it? Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do believe that one of these days what I say in this House will be heard by the Minister across or somewhere. Anyway, Mr. Speaker, I believe I raised the point. What I am raising is I have been told that I was misleading with wrongful information, third-hand information that the Minister was not aware of and that my constituent was misleading. Yet he admitted that there was a problem and he dealt with it at noon. So he is misleading, he is saying I am lying, that I am deliberately uttering falsehoods. So I would like you to look into this, what the Minister is saying. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee. I do not mean to interrupt you, but I just do not want it to go any further there because you have mentioned the word lying and the chair never heard the word lie earlier on until you mentioned it. Thank you for your Point of Order, Ms. Lee. The chair will take this under advisement. There was just a lot that had been said during that particular exchange and, for the continuation of today and question period, the chair will take this under advisement until I can review the unedited Hansard to see if in fact there is a Point of Order. Thank you, Ms. Lee. Your concern will be dealt with. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 295-14(6): Reorganizing Sport And Recreation Boards
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June 9th, 2003

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen. It concerns the government's attempts to restructure the recreation boards we have in the Northwest Territories and streamline them so we can have a more compulsory process so that everybody is included so that we can see a better working relationship between the different organizations, from the Aboriginal Sports Circles to all the regional sporting bodies and also Sport North. I had an opportunity to meet with members of the Aboriginal Sports Circle to get their interpretation of this. They support the idea of restructuring the recreation board to include not only communities, but regional and territorial boards so we can have a better system in place. So I would like to ask the Minister, exactly what are you doing to ensure that you include all agencies that are presently involved to date with this process, not just Sport North?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am prepared to meet with the Aboriginal Sports Circle representatives, especially if it can be done within the next three or four days while session is still on. In regards to meeting with all the representatives from Sport North, and recreation groups, that would take quite a while, especially since the most effective way would have been to call some kind of assembly to bring them all in. However, I did have a meeting with Sport North this morning, and Sport North is willing to take part in the June 25th meetings with the rest of the interim committee that was established to put together a plan for the operation of the new board. Sport North would not do that before. It appears after discussions with Sport North this morning, that this whole thing will come to a conclusion whereby everybody is back on track again. I am not saying it is going to be exactly the way it has been suggested up to now, but there may be some changes made or whatever. Whatever changes are proposed will be coming from the partners, not from the department. So that is where we are planning to go right now. I am hoping that the Member is not suggesting that I have to have a meeting with all these people in order to get this thing back on track. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Steen. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not insinuating that basically the Minister meets with every agency. Basically the point I am trying to get at is we have to have an open process here to ensure we include all the participants. We cannot have you meeting on one side with one group and then running off and meeting with someone else. You have to have room to meet in. So I am glad to hear that Sport North is willing to sit down and talk with these other agencies. I would like to ask the Minister, exactly how soon can we see some sort of...

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Can we have some order in the House. There seems to be a number of conversations going on. The chair is trying to listen to the Member's question. Thank you. Mr. Krutko, your question. ...(inaudible)...to the honourable Member, sir, but, Mr. Krutko, finish the question.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I feel that we have to have a system in place that is inclusive, that includes everyone. So I would like to ask the Minister, will you ensure that you have an ongoing dialogue with the parties that are involved in restructuring this body, so that we can somehow try to come to a workable solution, that we do not play one group off the other? Could you give us that assurance?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Minister Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I notice the representative here for the Aboriginal Sports Circle and I am willing to state again that I am open to a meeting with him, but I have no intention here to play one against the other. The intention is that they will all sit down together again on June 25th and come up with whether or not they will continue with this plan for a form of board that will address the concerns of the small communities and the participation by small communities, as well as the concerns of the existing sports organizations. I was told by the president of Sport North this morning that hopefully he and I can get together again sometime in early July and he will give me the results of this particular meeting. Meanwhile, of course, this department will be informing me as well. Thank you.