In the Legislative Assembly on June 12th, 2003. See this topic in context.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Chairman, I would like to move a motion. I move that this committee recommends that the Minister of Finance and chairman of the Financial Management Board file a report with the Legislative Assembly in the fall session for the $1.3 million expenditure relating to the road reconstruction in Tuktoyaktuk which details the approval process and criteria used to ensure compliance with the Financial Administration Act.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

The motion has been circulated. The motion is on the floor. To the motion.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Question.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Department Of Executive

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We will go back to page 20. Executive, capital investment expenditures, total for executive offices, $200,000, not previously authorized.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Financial Management Board Secretariat

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 21, Financial Management Board Secretariat, executive, capital investment expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, $324,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the whole idea that the government was gong to get out of the housing market, that decision was made during the 13th Assembly. This program seems like it's always coming back by supplementaries and the government is still expending money in this area. Have we looked at an employee housing purchasing program to see if there is a way we can offer these units to the private sector to have those units available to the teachers, nurses or people who provide a public service to the community, so the communities can maintain this asset, but also offer the requirement that seems to have a major affect in our communities, especially when it comes to providing houses to resource people we depend on in our communities? Has anything been done to look at transferring these units to the local housing authority or to the local Housing Corporation that can take on this responsibility and we, as a government, can get out of this once and for all, but allow the public sector to take it on?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, we have a policy in the government where we will buy back a government employee's house if they will purchase a house in the community. The reason for having this policy is to encourage employees to buy. When we buy it back, we buy it back at a market value. We put it back on the market at market value. If someone in the community wanted to buy the house, there would be no need for us to buy it back. They could purchase it.

If we buy the house, we want to get our money back out of it, but if the house is surplus to our needs and it's sitting there empty but we own it, then certainly we would consider making it available for rent to someone else. If the hamlet/band council want to buy back the unit rather than us, we would be pleased to do that.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, we all know that this probably just doesn't seem to want to go away. We think we have one problem solved by offering the employment housing purchasing program and then we find that we don't have the ability to build houses or provide housing to accommodate people in our communities, not only the residents of our communities but the people we depend on to provide public service. Has the government really seriously taken a close look at this along with the Housing Corporation and started changing some of the criteria that we know is not realistic? It seems like we are continuing to see these purchases come through a supplementary. Is there an easier way to purchase these units? I don't know how many times we purchase these units over and above... I know in other communities, we continue to see these units being purchased back by government, say when a teacher leaves and someone else comes back and takes on the unit. Then they leave and we are purchasing back. It seems like it's an ongoing cycle that doesn't seem to end. So I would just like to ask the Minister, is there any work being done to look at this program to see how we can deal with the housing shortages in our communities and get out of this program and replace it with something that is more user-friendly than going through this cycle? Has the department looked at alternatives?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Voytilla.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we are currently very actively looking at alternatives to deal with this in a broader issue with respect to housing availability. Certainly this program is one we've maintained and we want to maintain it until we have an alternative in place because it has promoted the entry into homeownership of many of our employees. To date, we've generally been able to resell or productively use the units that we have had to reacquire. But as the Member pointed out, the issue is more of an ongoing and broader concern and we do have a task team that is currently looking at housing issues broadly, including the housing requirements of our staff in smaller communities. We are looking at ways of getting more private sector rental housing into the communities at an affordable rent level that will attract tenants. That committee is aggressively studying a number of options and bringing them forward we hope in the next few months for government consideration.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Chairman, I waited quite awhile to get to page 20 and then I wasn't in the Chamber when it came up. I would like to go back to page 20.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking consent to go back to page 20. Does the committee agree?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Executive

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Go back to page 20, Executive, capital investment expenditures, Commissioner's office, not previously authorized, $200,000. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I spoke to this expenditure previously at some point and we talked about it here in the House. The Minister was kind enough to provide some fairly detailed information with respect to what it would cost to replace the present Commissioner's residence and incorporate office space into that, as opposed to put a $200,000 leasehold improvement into a building we don't own and won't have anything to show for after awhile. On the page which I think all Members got detailing the information of the costs, I had a few questions about that. Cost assumptions include larger than average lot. I thought we had determined that we had already owned the lot when we had the land already. It's in the possession of the Government of the Northwest Territories and had been set aside for use of the Commissioner's residence for sometime in the future. So why is that listed in there at $150,000? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Voytilla.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $150,000 that was in the costing we provided is for site development. It's for decking and landscaping and costs of that nature as we understand it.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My mistake. Actually, why do you have larger than average lot in your cost assumptions if we already own the land?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding is that the department is factoring into the square footage cost of the unit the estimate of the value of the land. If we were going to dedicate that particular land to this project, it would be normal to capitalize the cost of the land with the improvements, with the building. When you are doing the cost benefit analysis, the option available is if you don't use the lot for this purpose. If the lot is surplus to your need, the lot represents an asset you can dispose of. So it's normal we would build in the value of the lot into the cost benefit analysis.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. How did you arrive at a required space of 6,458 square feet? The current residence of the Commissioner is probably about maybe 1,500 square feet on the main living floor. So how did it go from 1,500 -- which if you are entertaining 1,500 is not large enough and I wouldn't expect it to be the same size -- but how do we go to 6,500 square feet?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mr. Voytilla.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The existing square footage that the Commissioner's office consumes is just under 2,000 square feet and I think the intention was that this would afford her an opportunity to meet all of her office requirements. So a minimum of 2,000 to 2,500 square feet is designated for office requirements and that leaves a large home in the vicinity of 4,000 square feet for the Commissioner's requirements, which would include large entertaining capability and other requirements. I believe that's how they came up with the number. We don't have the specific design estimates here, but I do believe that was the basis for the calculation.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think then that the fact that this information indicates that if there was a new residence, that this is the amount of space that would be required, it certainly speaks then of the inadequacy of the current residence. It talks here about prestigious landscaping, interior finishes that befit the images of a Commissioner's residence. Well, what is the image of the Commissioner's residence now? I understand if you are gong to build new, you are going to want to upgrade, but I think that all these things that are listed here speak to the fact that we really don't have a place where when we have visiting dignitaries, we can actually entertain except in the Great Hall. For the record, I know we have gone past this page and it's already been approved, but I think this is not a wise investment to put $200,000 into leasehold improvements into NorthwesTel and add that to the rent. If you do the math between the existing residence, the land we already own, what you are going to pay for leasehold, what you are going to pay for rent and add it all up? I can't believe you can't do better to build a new residence and own something. That is my comment, for the record. Thank you.

Financial Management Board Secretariat

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. We'll go back to page 21, Financial Management Board Secretariat, total Financial Management Board Secretariat, $501,000, not previously authorized.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Aboriginal Affairs

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page, 22, Executive, capital investment expenditures, Aboriginal Affairs, aboriginal affairs not previously authorized, $21,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total for Aboriginal Affairs, not previously authorized, $21,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department not previously authorized, $722,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Municipal And Community Affairs

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 23, Municipal and Community Affairs, capital investment expenditures, regional operations, not previously authorized, $3,013,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Special warrant, $1,721,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, special warrant, $1,721,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized, $3,013,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Public Works And Services

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 24, Public Works and Services, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $302,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Systems and communications, not previously authorized, $213,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Petroleum products, not previously authorized, $954,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized $1,469,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Health And Social Services

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 25, Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, health services programs, not previously authorized $4,204,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Community health programs, not previously authorized, $516,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized, $4,720,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Justice

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 26, Justice, capital investment expenditures, registries and court services, special warrants, $90,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Community justice and corrections, special warrants, $250,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as you probably heard in the news with regard to the Arctic Tern Young Offenders' Facility, this facility has cost us almost $6 million. Yet we find ourselves in a situation where it's only been in use over a year. We find a major problem with regard to the structure of the facility, which is now shifting. We may have a long-term liability or problem with a facility that's supposedly brand new. The ironic thing about it all is we have a facility with nobody in it, but we have 15 working there and it's costing this government $1 million a year to run it. Could we have a full explanation with regard to the status of this facility and why it is that we are now coming back to a project of some $270,000 after it's been constructed, people have moved in and now we find out we have a major infrastructure problem? Could the Minister give us an update or provide some documentation on the scope of this project and the cost of the $270,000 glitch we seem to find ourselves in?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1051

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, if Mr. Krutko would like the documentation, we can have that provided on paper. In the meantime, I will say the building is new. There was a problem. Some of the thermo siphons were not working that caused the ground to melt in one area and there was shifting in the building. The work had to be done to repair the problem. They were getting to the point where they couldn't open some doors. The departments of Justice and Public Works and Services are now in the process of trying to determine the liability for it and settle. Legal action may be necessary.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister give some timelines? How soon will we hear back about the liability question? Who has the liability and at what point will we know we will have to go to court on this matter because the question of liability has not been worked out? Could we get some idea of how soon we can get some of this information?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I would suspect that we should come to some conclusion from our perspective within the next month to two months. If legal action is necessary and this ends up in court, then it could drag on for some time before it would be finally resolved. The legal costs depend on how long we end up in court with it. Mr. Chairman, I think we could undertake to keep the Members apprised of the status of this project, but it's really hard to put a date or a dollar amount on the legal challenge that might be there.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Community justice and corrections, special warrants, $250,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized, $5,629,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, special warrants, $340,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized $5,629,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Education, Culture And Employment

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 27, Education, Culture and Employment, capital investment expenditures, advanced education and careers, not previously authorized, $6,931,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Education and culture, special warrants, $160,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized $3,057,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, special warrants, $160,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized $9,988,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Just to get clarification, could the Minister tell me what the status is of the Aurora College in Inuvik? Is that a negotiated contract and who is it negotiated with?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I will refer that to the Minister of Public Works and Services.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Minister Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, It's a negotiated contract, yes.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

The Member wanted to know who the contract is with. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

The contract is with Dowland.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to this contract, my understanding behind the support letter for this project is it was a joint venture between the Inuvialuit and the Gwich'in Development Corporation. I would like to know at what point in time did that status change where that joint venture no longer exists?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I don't have the exact date, but it was in the fall of 2002 that we received a letter from the Gwich'in Development Corporation who, at the time, were partners with Dowland, that they were no longer the prime contractor and that they were no longer interested in negotiating the contract. They pulled out, in other words. That left it open for Dowland to continue as a negotiated contract.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1052

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

At what point in time do you have to come back to the Members... The intent of a negotiated contract is you have to get a support letter from the local affected community and the local MLAs. In this case, there was a support letter from myself and Mr. Roland. Did this government go back to those respective individuals and communities to ask if they still supported the project knowing the company has now changed? Did that take place? Part of the approval process for these contracts is it has to be approved by way of support letters by the communities and MLAs. Did that take place?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, if the whole contracting process had failed, we would have went back to Cabinet with a request to go to public tender. But that particular contract had not totally collapsed because it just reversed. Instead of the Gwich'in taking the lead as the prime contractor, Dowland was the prime contractor and they had an agreement in letter form from the Gwich'in Development Corporation that the Gwich'in Development Corporation would still be a partner in the negotiated contract.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister tell me if the Gwich'in are still partners in this project?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

To my knowledge, Mr. Chairman, yes.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I am hearing something different. I would like to ask the Minister to go back and get that information and clarify who is the benefactors to this contract and what the role of the Gwich'in are playing along with Dowland. What I am hearing is they have been pushed out of the way and Dowland has taken over. I would like to know if you have that in writing. If you do, I would like to see a copy of that.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can certainly provide that information to the Member, but just for clarification it was a letter from the Gwich'in Development Corporation that indicated clearly to us that they were no longer interested in being the prime contractor because their biggest supporter or biggest partner in the venture was a firm from the Yukon and they had pulled out. That was the reason why the Gwich'in no longer wanted to be the lead contractor.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

If I could get that information it would be great.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $9,988,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Transportation

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 28, Transportation, capital investment expenditures, airports, special warrants, $581,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized, $612,000. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Just with regard to the Aklavik Airport renovation at the airport terminal, could the Minister give me an update of what the status of that facility is? It has been on the books for some time, so I would just like to know when this project will be completed and what is the government doing to ensure that these projects are completed on time and that we don't have these delays because of people not committed to their contracts.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The contractor is currently completing some deficiencies and should have that done by July. Assuming that NavCan agrees with moving the equipment over then, we should see this project completed by mid-summer.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Could the Minister give me a total cost of the project and what is the cost overrun of the project compared to the cost when we started?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I don't have any information on the carryovers or additional cost, but the total project cost is $425,000. I would have to get the additional information if there were any cost overruns on the project and provide it to the Member.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can I get the information the Minister read off earlier with regard to the timelines of when we expect this to be finished, how much work was still needed to be done and the type of work that had to be done?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I will get an update on the status of the project and exactly when they anticipate having it finished.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you. Airports, not previously authorized, $612,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Highways, not previously authorized, $4,310,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, special warrants, $581,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1053

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Not previously authorized, $4,922,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Department Of Resources, Wildlife And Economic Development

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 22, Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, capital investment expenditures, resource management and economic development, not previously authorized, $1,636,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Forest management, not previously authorized, $137,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized, $1,773,000.

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Does the committee agree we go clause by clause?

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Clause By Clause

Committee Motion 125-14(6): To Report On $1.3 Million Project For The Tuktoyaktuk Road Reconstruction, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 12th

Page 1054

The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We go back to page 1, Bill 18, Supplementary Appropriation, No.1, 2003-2004, clause 1.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 3.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 4.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 5.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 6.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 7.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Clause 8.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Schedule, supplementary amounts appropriate for the 2003-2004 fiscal year, part I, vote I, operation expenditures, total supplementary appropriation for operations expenditures, negative $627,200.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Part II, vote II, capital investment expenditures, total supplementary appropriation for capital investment expenditures, $35,038,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total supplementary appropriation, $34,410,800.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Bill as a whole.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Does the committee agree that Bill 18 is ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Bill 18 is ready for third reading. I would like to thank the Minister and his witnesses for appearing.

---Applause

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

That concludes the items on the Committee of the Whole agenda. I will now rise and report progress.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

I call the House back to order. May I have the report of Committee of the Whole? The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey.