This is page numbers 1079 - 1104 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was report.

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Further Return To Question 342-14(6): Hay River Health Authority Bargaining Process
Question 342-14(6): Hay River Health Authority Bargaining Process
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Honourable Joe Handley, Minister of Transportation. Mr. Speaker, in questioning the Minister in the spring session, he told us that Highway No. 3 is in excellent condition, but if you read the newspaper in the Hub, Highway No. 3 was nominated as one of the worst highways in Canada. How can a road become one of the worst highways from excellent shape in a matter of a few months? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, it was listed as possibly the worst highway that connects our capital cities and as part of our national highway system. I don't question that at all. It is in terrible shape for a national highway. We have been working hard with the federal government to try to find the resources to be able to make improvements on it. But the highway changes, as Mr. Lafferty knows, he drives it almost everyday, it changes from day to day. One day it's good and then we'll have a heavy rain storm and heavy traffic and it will be terrible the next day. So it does change quickly from being a pretty good highway for its age and general condition, to being a highway that's in terrible and rough shape. Thank you.

Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There must be lots of rain because the road has never been in good shape all summer. Because of this news report, has the department taken any new steps in maintaining that road? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, the report came out in the last day or so, so the department has not taken any unusual steps of bringing in any more equipment or rebuilding it or putting a new surface on sections or anything like that that would be necessary to change its condition. We certainly hear when reports like this are made and we will take them into consideration. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister is right, I drive the road almost everyday and I have yet to see equipment working on that road consecutively, more than three days at a time. This summer, they did only four circuits and that's in five months. Can the Minister get his department to do more frequent maintenance, then we don't have to deal with the safety or news reports to consider this one of the worst highways? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, certainly I will be talking with my department about the report and also the issues that are raised here today. We will do the work on the highway, the maintenance on the highway as conditions warrant. If it means we have to bring in more equipment, we will do that. If it means having to go to private contract, we'll do it.

Further Return To Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Question 343-14(6): Condition Of Highway No. 3
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Return To Written Question 7-14(6): Support For Somba K'e Facility
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker, a return to written question asked by the Member for Yellowknife South to the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation concerning support for Somba K'e facility located on Detah Road.

Specifically, the Member wanted a detailed 12-month accounting of all public funds provided to support the operations of the Somba K'e facility.

Mr. Speaker, from June 2002 through October 2002, the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation spent $5,000 per month on mortgage payments for the Somba K'e facility. From November 2002 to January 2003, the corporation paid $10,000 per month for mortgage payments. A further $6,184 was expended in February 2003 for repairs related to a freeze-up. Repairs to mechanical systems accounted for expenses of $19,484 in May 2003. In total, since June 2002, the corporation has spent $120,688 on the facility.

The total mortgage payments per month amounts to $17,759. The corporation receives a subsidy for this facility from Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation of $7,759 per month. From June 2002 to October 2002, the Somba K'e Healing Lodge paid $5,000 per month in lease payments. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 8-14(6): Business Incentive Policy
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Return to Written Question 8-14(6) asked by the Member for Mackenzie Delta and responded to by the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development on the business incentive policy.

As of August 31, 2003, there were 1,435 businesses registered under the current business incentive policy, BIP. Of these 1,435 registered businesses, 94.5 percent were owned by residents of the Northwest Territories. The remaining 5.4 percent were non-resident businesses that have operated in the North for longer than 10 years, as allowed for in the business incentive policy.

The BIP program budget is $298,000.

The current registration for BIP is based on ownership and does not distinguish between wholly-owned subsidiaries and branch operations. The Government of the Northwest Territories is establishing a contract registry that will provide information on all tenders and proposals valued over $5,000, the evaluation and award results including the total BIP bid adjustments and any applicable premiums.

There were 7,698 employees of registered BIP companies.

Return To Question 9-14(6): Child Protection Services
Return To Written Question 8-14(6): Business Incentive Policy
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Return to Written Question 9-14(6) asked by the Member for Mackenzie Delta to the Minister of Health and Social Services concerning child protection services.

  1. Data from the child and family information system shows that, on May 31, 2003, 43 children in the Mackenzie Delta region were receiving child protection services.
  2. The status of the children in care was as follows:
  • • Voluntary support agreement 3
  • • Plan of care 16
  • • Interim custody order 9
  • • Temporary custody 2
  • • Permanent custody 10
  • • Apprehension 3

The placement of children in care was as follows:

  • • Parental home 9
  • • Extended family foster home 9
  • • Regular foster home 21
  • • Northern treatment 1
  • • Southern treatment 3

Return To Question 9-14(6): Child Protection Services
Return To Written Question 8-14(6): Business Incentive Policy
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 9, replies to Opening Address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Committee Report 16-14(6): Report On The Review Of Bill 27, An Act To Amend The Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Act
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you particularly for speaking slowly. Mr. Speaker, I have the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight report on the review of Bill 27, An Act to Amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act. Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight is pleased to report its review of Bill 27, An Act to Amend the Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

The Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act, herein after referred to as the act, was passed by the Legislative Assembly of the Northwest Territories in 1994. It came into force on December 31, 1996. The stated intention of the act is to promote, uphold and protect access to the information that government creates and receives and to protect the privacy rights of individuals.

The act provides for the appointment of an Information and Privacy Commissioner as an independent officer of the Legislative Assembly. The current Commissioner, Ms. Elaine Keenan-Bengts, was appointed on July 1, 2000, for a five-year term. Under Section 68 of the act, the Commissioner is required to submit an annual report to the Assembly. This committee has taken on as part of its mandate the responsibility to advocate for the rights of the public to an open and transparent government and has made it a practice since 1999-2000 to undertake reviews of the Commissioner's report and to in turn report back to the Assembly with its recommendations and findings.

Since it first began reviewing the Commissioner's reports, the committee has made several recommendations for changes to the act to address problems pointed out by the Commissioner. Members were pleased to see that Bill 27 addresses some of these recommendations, the details of which are explained below.

Public Review Of Bill 27

Mr. Speaker, the committee held an initial public hearing with the Minister on August 29, 2003. A further hearing took place on September 19, 2003, at which the committee heard from the Commissioner and the Minister and conducted its clause-by-clause review. During its clause-by-clause review, two motions to amend the bill were carried by the committee and concurred with by the Minister. The substance of these motions is discussed below. Following clause-by-clause review of the bill, a motion was carried to report Bill 27, as amended, back to the Assembly as ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

Power To Subpoena Witnesses

Mr. Speaker, Bill 27 provides the Commissioner the power to summon witnesses and require them to give evidence. This power only applies to reviews of access to information complaints. These provisions respond to recommendations made by both the Commissioner and the committee and both were pleased to see them included in this bill.

Power To Investigate And Make Recommendations On Privacy Complaints

Mr. Speaker, Bill 27 also provide the Commissioner with the power to review complaints that a public body has collected, used or disclosed personal information in violation of the privacy provisions under the act. These provisions were also in response to the recommendations and were welcomed by both the Commissioner and the committee.

Two amendments were made to these provisions during the clause-by-clause review of the bill. The first deleted a proposed section which dealt with evidence given by witnesses as the Commissioner will not have the power to summon witnesses in conducting a review of a privacy complaint. The second amendment clarifies the process to be followed by a public body after receiving the Commissioner's report on a privacy complaint. Within 90 days, the public body must decide whether or not to follow the Commissioner's recommendations and must give written notice of this decision to the Commissioner and the person who requested the review.

Deemed Refusal

During its public hearings, the committee had lengthy discussions with the Information and Privacy Commissioner on the deemed refusal provisions contained in Bill 27. The committee has also discussed the same issues with the Commissioner during its reviews of her last two reports. Because the committee adopted a position that was not favoured by the Commissioner, Members felt it was important to explain their reasons for doing so in detail.

The change in the legislation is designed to address a gap in procedure that currently exists with respect to access requests and a review of an access request by the Commissioner. Under the present legislation, a person can request information from the head of the public body. If the applicant disagrees with the decision of the public body, respecting access to the information, he or she may request the ATIPP Commissioner to review the decision. When the Commissioner has conducted a review, a report which may contain recommendations, is prepared by the Commissioner and provided to the applicant and the head of the public body. The head of the public body would then be required to make a decision as to whether the recommendations of the ATIPP Commissioner would be followed or not, and to advise the ATIPP Commissioner and the applicant of this decision.

The difficulty is that the legislation did not provide for any further remedies. If the head of the public body does not respond to the recommendations of the Commissioner, there appeared to be no further action which could be taken by an applicant. It therefore became necessary to address this gap in the legislation so that recommendations could not be ignored without consequences. All agreed that this situation had to be fixed. However, there was disagreement as to how to best remedy the legislation.

The Commissioner thought that the best approach was to have a deemed acceptance provision in the act. This would mean that if the head of the public body did not respond within the stipulated time to recommendations made by the Commissioner regarding the request for access to information, the head of the public body would be taken to have accepted those recommendations and act accordingly. She felt that this would be the clearest and simplest solution to the issue. She advised the committee that recommendations contained in her report are often detailed and there may be many recommendations contained in the report. She was of the view that if a deemed refusal provision was put in, namely a statement that if the head of the public body does not respond within the time required, he or she is deemed to have rejected the recommendations of the ATIPP Commissioner, it would cause confusion.

The committee had previously recommended in reports previously made to the Assembly that a deemed refusal provision was the most appropriate way of solving the problem. It came to this conclusion because:

  • • This issue has been solved in this fashion by other provinces and their ATIPP legislation, whereas no other jurisdiction has adopted a deemed acceptance approach;
  • • There is equal opportunity for confusion, whether the recommendations are deemed to be accepted or deemed to be refused;
  • • The general role of the ATIPP Commissioner is akin to ombudsman. The power of the Commissioner is that of making recommendations. It is up to an applicant to take matters to court for an order if he or she is unhappy with the result. A deemed acceptance provision would have the effect of giving order making authority to the ATIPP Commissioner and this is not what the legislation as a whole intends;
  • • Deemed refusal is more consistent with a failure to respond or saying nothing then is deemed acceptance;
  • • The problem being addressed does not frequently occur. As in the vast majority of cases, department heads respond within the time set out in the legislation. During the public hearings with the Minister, justice staff advised that according to their records there has only been one time in the history of the act that a department has failed to respond within the allotted 30 days.

Mr. Speaker, the committee's decision to support the deemed refusal provision was not made lightly. Members wish to reassure the Commissioner that full consideration was given to her views and concerns. The committee strongly believes that this provision provides the best protection for NWT residents.

Mr. Speaker, the committee is disappointed that the government has not pursued amendments to include municipal governments under access to information and protection of privacy laws. In its reports on the Commissioner's 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 reports, the committee fully supported the Commissioner's recommendations that either separate legislation be developed to deal with the municipalities or municipalities be included under the existing act.

The committee also developed a concern that the federal government now has the authority under the Personal Information and Delinquent Documents Act to regulate how the private sector in the NWT collects, stores and uses personal information. The committee recommended in its review of the Commissioner's 2000-2001 report that the government establish legislation in order to avoid federal jurisdiction in this area and to ensure that local privacy issues are regulated by made in the NWT laws. Members are disappointed that the government has not pursued development of legislation in this area.

Acknowledgements

Mr. Speaker, the committee would like to thank the Minister and his staff for presenting the bill. The committee would also like to thank the Commissioner for her submission on Bill 27, and also for her advice and cooperation over the past three years, which has resulted in many of the amendments contained in the bill. The committee is confident that these amendments will ensure better access to information and privacy protection for NWT residents.

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 16-14(6), Carried
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, that concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight on the review of Bill 27, an Act to Amend the Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, that Committee Report 16-14(6) be received by the Legislative Assembly and adopted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 16-14(6), Carried
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 16-14(6), Carried
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 16-14(6), Carried
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 16-14(6), Carried
Item 11: Reports Of Standing And Special Committees

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

The report has been received by the House. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Bill 22: Waste Reduction And Recovery Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

September 29th, 2003

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report to the Legislative Assembly that the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development has reviewed Bill 22, Waste Reduction and Recovery Act, and wishes to report that Bill 22 is now ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole as amended and reprinted. Thank you.

Bill 22: Waste Reduction And Recovery Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.