Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.
Debates of Oct. 18th, 2004
This is page numbers 795 - 818 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was legal.
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Further Return To Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
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Supplementary To Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Minister for the update and the results of his trip to Vancouver. Inasmuch as it shares information with the public and the House, through the Assembly, it is a good thing. However, I just wanted to comment that I was a little disappointed this morning that all of the media coverage on CBC was quoting the Alberta Health Minister, Minister Gary Mar, and I would like to know if the Minister would make a commitment to put the same information and maybe more detail out to the public by way of a press release, as a result of his meetings. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
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Further Return To Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, many of the legislatures across Canada are in session and what happened late yesterday was when we concluded our meetings, many of us had plane times booked so that we could get back to our respective jurisdictions in time for session. So the press conference was delegated as it normally is to the Minister, the two co-chairs: the federal Minister and the provincial/territorial Minister which, in this case, was the Minister from British Columbia.
Mr. Mar had the benefit of soon to be going up for election and was staying in Vancouver to visit relatives, so he stayed around and was there to provide his input on the meeting. I've also met with press this morning and I will be doing a 7:15 interview tomorrow morning with Randy Henderson. So we will be spreading this information as best we can. Thank you.
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Further Return To Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
Question 240-15(3): Details Of Additional Federal Health Funding
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.
Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise because I have some concerns about some of the questions, about this lease with the Centre Square Mall downtown for the Legal Services Board; however, my concerns are not quite like the other Member. I actually feel completely dismayed by some of the suggestions.
We keep hearing about the 15-year lease, but it is a five-year lease. So I think we need to get some of these misleading facts out there so they are absolutely crystal clear.
Mr. Speaker, I hear that Legal Services Board is satisfied, so my question to the Minister is, could he clarify on the criteria and...
Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Ms. Lee is rising on a Point of Order. Ms. Lee what is your Point of Order?
Point Of Order
Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a Point of Order. I don't know exactly what section there, but I believe that we have a rule in the House that says a Member cannot suggest that another Member is providing any information that is misleading, and, Mr. Speaker, I just want to state that we have the right to ask the questions that we all feel strongly about, on the basis of the information we have.
I do not appreciate any suggestion by any Member in this House that somehow we are failing in our duty to give good information. So I respect the Member's right to pose his own question, but I really do not agree with the suggestion that either I or Mr. Ramsay were misleading any information in asking the questions that we have been. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker's Ruling
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Ms. Lee, for your Point of Order. Mr. Hawkins, there is a possibility that you were indicating maybe some misleading information. Would you like to withdraw your comments and rephrase your question? Mr. Hawkins.
Speaker's Ruling
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Speaker's Ruling
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Mr. Hawkins, the Chair is of the impression that you may have been implying that there was some misleading information being put out in the House. Would you care to withdraw you comments and rephrase your question?
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Absolutely, Mr. Speaker, as long as I don't lose my first question. I would be more than happy to reword and take back that comment.
Mr. Speaker, I need to seek further clarification from the Minister, the Honourable Mr. Charles Dent, because the phrase gets thrown out there, in regards to how many years this lease may be and I am not really sure. So we need a solid answer to get this fact down. I also hear that the Legal Services Board is satisfied with this space in regards to meeting their criteria of storefront accessibility downtown and centralized. So are we meeting the needs of the Legal Services Board set out by their criteria. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker's Ruling
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Speaker's Ruling
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The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Roland.
Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I guess just to set the record straight; from our discussions with the Department of Justice and the Legal Services Board, they are happy with the location that this new contract puts in place. It is a five-year lease, with options to renew. Thank you.
Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Supplementary To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I see it, as we were fighting for legal aid earlier in the year, the fact is we couldn't deliver the service because we didn't have the place to send them to get the service. So I think, in my view, that this service is being met. Now because there have been concerns about the fact that the other two tenders, tenderees if I may call them that -- I don't know what they are called -- contractors who wanted to bid on that space, didn't have a chance to appropriately put in a proper bid. So I guess my question is regardless of someone being late or not late, on time or not on time, was the question posed to those other people who were not successful in this contracting bid? Could they provide the services designed by the criteria of the Legal Services Board as mentioned by the criterion over and over again? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Further Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the proponents that responded to the RFP were contacted to see if they could provide a suitable location that was requested by the Legal Services Board. So they were contacted and we were informed that they did not have the adequate space or suitable space as was being requested. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Supplementary To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's been brought up that there could have been other options out there and maybe one of the examples could have possibly been let's put that in the Centre of Northern Families. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister be able to say clearly if that could be considered a conflict because of dealing with both sides of the client issue of legal services issues? So could that have been considered a conflict to put it in a place like that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Further Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, all I can say to that is we had worked with those that responded to the RFP and there were no other responses that came to Public Works and Services through this RFP process. So we worked with those that responded and went with the best option that we felt was there, and then, as that work was done, passed on to Justice for their look at it and there was agreement that this was the way to go. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 241-15(3): New Legal Aid Office Lease
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