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Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what we do already is we offer indigenous aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories the choice of receiving their living allowance either through a remissible loan or a grant. We have, for a number of years, advised people that there is some question whether or not CCRA will at some point start to tax the grants. We have known for some time that they are looking at this. The option is there if a student takes a remissible loan, for instance, they can avoid paying the taxes in any case, no matter what CCRA decides.

That means that will make sure that we offer an option that would avoid the taxes in any case in the Northwest Territories, or would allow students the option to avoid paying taxes on the monies. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Time for question period has expired, however, Mr. Villeneuve, I will allow you your supplementary questions. Mr. Villeneuve.

Supplementary To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I don't know what would be better, a remissible loan or pay the tax on your grant. I'm not sure which, where the student would come out on top. The Minister said he has had some dialogue with the federal cohorts on this taxation issue. I'm just wondering what his department, as the Minister of Education for all our youth, aboriginal and non-aboriginal alike in the NWT, is doing to assist and help these treaty people to get a point across to the federal government that this is a treaty right and should be non-taxable. Whether it is a remissible loan, grant...

Supplementary To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we're not experts on treaty in the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and don't claim to have that expertise. We would expect that it is in the interest of Canada and Canadians to make sure that the cost of education is kept as low as possible, and we would hope that that is looked at. But in terms of defining treaty, it isn't something that I think this government is in a position to do, and I think that we want to be cautious about getting ourselves into that argument. As I've said, we have made sure that we are offering students the opportunity to choose whether they receive the money through remissible loan, in which case it doesn't have to be paid back, so that if they get 100 percent of the dollars and never wind up having to pay it back, they can choose that method; or they can choose a grant and then their argument is going to be with CCRA over whether or not they have to pay taxes. That's not one that we can intervene on directly, because it was one between the individuals, but it certainly is in the interest of all of us to see as much money as possible getting into the hands of students. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Villeneuve.

Supplementary To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I guess I had the remissible loan concept a little mixed up. I thought that was repayable, but I guess you have to come back north and repay it in the form of hard labour. I just want to get the Minister's support, I guess, to help move this thing forward for aboriginals and treaties alike in Canada and the NWT, and I guess I'm looking at him to offer the NWT students some level of comfort in saying yes, they are going to maybe lobby the federal government to help them with this initiative and establish it as a treaty right, which I feel it is. I just want to get the Minister just to offer these people some level of support, that he do everything in his power to move the federal government toward a more reasonable approach to this whole taxation of student financial assistance. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. I don't know if I heard a question there, but, Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I could certainly commit to the Member that I would communicate to the appropriate federal Minister our concern about the impact that this change might have on the ability of students to be successful and ask that they take a look at their policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Question 314-15(3): Taxation Of Financial Support Provided To Post-secondary Aboriginal Students
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Before I proceed to item 7, written questions, the Chair would like to correct the record with respect to Written Question 49-15(3), asked by Ms. Lee, and contained on pages 2203 and 2204 of unedited Hansard. The Member incorrectly identified the Honourable Floyd Roland as the Minister to whom questions regarding the North Slave Correctional Centre were addressed. In reviewing the unedited Hansard, I note that the questions contained in Written Question 49-15(3) are all directed to the Honourable Charles Dent, Minister of Justice. Therefore, I have ordered that the requisite changes be made to Hansard and the official records of this House.

Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Written Question 54-15(3): Market Housing Initiative
Item 7: Written Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for correcting those errors. I have two sets of written questions. The first one is to the Honourable David Krutko, Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

  1. How much money was budgeted and has been spent out of the budget approved for the market housing initiative as of October 15, 2004?
  2. Describe the work along with the dollar amounts for which the Business Incentive Policy was waived and for which the BIP was applied in this initiative, respectively.
  3. Provide the dollar figures and names of all companies that received contracts under this initiative.

Written Question 55-15(3): Power Generated At Jackfish And Bluefish Plants
Item 7: Written Questions

October 25th, 2004

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My second question is for the Honourable Joe Handley, Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation.

Please provide details of the amount of power being generated at the Jackfish plant and Bluefish hydro plant, respectively, with highlights for significant increases or decreases in each plant over the last three years. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Written Question 55-15(3): Power Generated At Jackfish And Bluefish Plants
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Written Question 56-15(3): Market Housing Initiative
Item 7: Written Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Honourable David Krutko, Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation.

  1. How many market housing units will be installed, in what community and by when?
  2. As of today, how many units are occupied?
  3. By what professions?
  4. What market research did the NWT Housing Corporation undertake to identify potential tenants and determine their needs/expectations before committing to the market housing initiative?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Written Question 56-15(3): Market Housing Initiative
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Written Question 57-15(3): Benefits From Oil And Gas Exploration
Item 7: Written Questions

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my written question today is directed to the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development.

Could the Minister provide detailed information of the direct financial benefits the GNWT has received over the last five years as the result of oil and gas exploration programs in the Sahtu and in the NWT?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Written Question 57-15(3): Benefits From Oil And Gas Exploration
Item 7: Written Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Item 8: Returns To Written Questions
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I am in receipt of three returns to written questions: Return to Written Question 34-15(3), asked by Mr. Yakeleya to the Honourable Michael McLeod, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, regarding Fort Good Hope water treatment plant; Return to Written Question 36-15(3), asked by Mr. Villeneuve to the Honourable Michael McLeod, Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, regarding the need for a youth centre in Deninu Kue; Return to Written Question 37-15(3), asked by Mr. Menicoche to the Honourable Michael McLeod, regarding communities without gymnasiums. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 34-15(3): Fort Good Hope Water Treatment Plant
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

When conducting testing on its water treatment plant, Fort Good Hope follows the sampling and testing requirements and guidelines established by the environmental health officer of the Department of Health and Social Services, as follows:

  • • free chlorine and total chlorine levels are measured three times daily;
  • • bacteriological sampling is done four times monthly;
  • • chemical and physical parameters are measured 24 times per year; and,
  • • trihalomethanes are measured twice per year.

The water treatment system in Fort Good Hope is maintained by the community government, and consists of a seasonal fill reservoir and truck fill station. The reservoir is filled twice per year and works as a sedimentation tank, as well as a storage reservoir. This water is chlorinated before filling of the water delivery truck occurs.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is providing funding over three fiscal years to Fort Good Hope from the water and sewer systems deficiencies budget, to provide for upgrades to the truck fill station. This project is still in progress and is anticipated to be substantially complete during the 2005-2006 fiscal year.

There are three other communities in the Northwest Territories -- Tuktoyaktuk, Jean Marie River and Trout Lake -- that use a reservoir and truck fill system similar to the system in place in Fort Good Hope.

As part of the annual capital planning process, Municipal and Community Affairs staff last met with Fort Good Hope community members on July 12, 2004, and provided an update on the truck fill station upgrade project. Municipal and Community Affairs would be pleased to meet again with council and elders to discuss any issues surrounding the Fort Good Hope water treatment plant.

Return To Written Question 36-14(3): Need For A Youth Centre In Deninu Kue
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

The community of Fort Resolution received funding of $80,000 from Municipal and Community Affairs Community Initiatives Program in 2003-2004, for the renovation of the Deninu Kue Youth Centre. Due to technical delays, work was not completed in that fiscal year, and only $17,000 was spent. In 2004-2005, the community council again requested funding of $63,000 from the Community Initiatives Program to continue the work. This request was approved.

Subsequent estimates by the community placed the cost of this project in excess of $100,000. The community council has indicated that they would seek the remaining funds for this project by writing to various northern companies to request financial assistance for the completion of the project.

The community is hoping to receive favourable responses to its request by the end of October 2004.

It is the community's decision how they want to proceed in the event that third-party funding for the youth centre is unavailable. One option that the community may pursue is to request that previously approved funding of $63,000 from the Community Initiatives Program, which has not yet been spent, be used to make the existing community hall more functional for Fort Resolution youth.

Municipal and Community Affairs regional staff have worked closely with the community, and will continue to provide assistance to the community government on this matter.

Return To Written Question 37-15(3): Communities Without Gymnasiums
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Mr. Speaker, I would like to provide Members with some background information on the various types of gymnasiums which may be present in a community. A community gymnasium is a facility which can serve as a combination community hall and gymnasium, and is suitable for recreation games, fitness activities and organized sports. A community hall is a larger public recreation facility suitable for social recreation activities such as feasts, dances, meetings and cultural events, and also meets the Government of the Northwest Territories requirements for school physical education programs. A community assembly hall is a public recreation and administrative facility that can serve both social recreation activity functions, as well as community administrative and assembly needs.

Mr. Speaker, the non-tax-based communities of Enterprise, Kakisa and Nahanni Butte do not have either a community gym or a community hall in place. However, each has a community assembly building that is used for low-structured recreation activities.

Although there are no other indoor sport facilities in Enterprise, Kakisa and Nahanni Butte, there are many other recreation facilities in place. Enterprise has a ball diamond, outdoor active living centre, snowmobile trails, a sliding hill and camping facilities. Kakisa has a ball diamond and playfields. Nahanni Butte has multi-purpose trails, waterfront area, youth centre, playground and playfield.

It is important to note that during the late 1980s and early 1990s, a significant amount of funding was allocated to construct recreational facilities in non-tax-based communities in the Northwest Territories. However, in keeping with today's fiscal realities, the Government of the Northwest Territories must target scarce infrastructure funding to those capital projects that attain high priority through the corporate capital planning process.

The Government of the Northwest Territories recognizes the importance that recreational facilities play in the lives of community governments, and how important it is that community members identify which infrastructure projects are of high priority to community residents. I traveled to the community of Nahanni Butte with the Member of the Legislative Assembly this past summer and I am aware of their desire for a community gym. My department will continue to work with the community to try to identify resources for this project.

Return To Written Question 37-15(3): Communities Without Gymnasiums
Item 8: Returns To Written Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Tabled Document 85-15(3): Letter From Tulita Teachers To The GNWT Re: Housing For Teachers
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table a letter I received from Lorraine Kuer, a teacher at Chief Albert Wright School in Tulita, which is signed by 19 staff and teachers in Tulita.

Mr. Speaker, the letter is addressed to the Government of the Northwest Territories and it describes the housing crises facing teachers in the Sahtu region and other small communities in the Northwest Territories, and it challenges the government to take immediate action to redeem the situation. Thank you.

Tabled Document 85-15(3): Letter From Tulita Teachers To The GNWT Re: Housing For Teachers
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Minister's Statement 48-15(3), Sessional Statement; Minister's Statement 49-15(3), Fiscal Update; Minister's Statement 54-15(3), Progress Report on Health and Social Services in the NWT; Minister's Statement 68-15(3), NWT Housing Corporation: From the Ground Up, Celebrating 30 Years; and, Bill 13, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 2004-2005, with Mr. Pokiak in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Good afternoon, I call the meeting to order here. In front of us we have for consideration: Minister's Statement 48-15(3), Minister's Statement 49-15(3), Minister's Statement 54-15(3), Minister's Statement 68-15(3), and Bill 13. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Menicoche.