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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can't speak for what the previous governments did with the money, but what we do in cases if we needed the work done and we didn't have the resources within, that means our own staff, we would look at contracting individuals to take on some of that workload. So that could be done in some cases. As well, it could be used as an area of saving some money from within and turning that back to the consolidated revenue. But I can't speak for the three years. I'm aware of the four positions, unless there are a couple more out there for hire right now and waiting for actual closure on those positions. But I'm aware of four and I've sent a letter to Members. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The next question I would have is if a couple of these positions, and they're senior positions, Mr. Speaker, have been vacant -- one for over three years, the other coming up on two years -- will the Minister consider rolling these positions up? If the Audit Bureau has gotten by without these positions for this amount of time, does that cause the Minister some concern? I know he spoke of the last government, but this is this government. Today is today. Will the Minister undertake to have a review of this division and see if we can roll up some of these positions that have been vacant for up to three years? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 114-15(3): Vacancies In The GNWT Audit Bureau
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Finance, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I stated earlier, I will get more details. But again, if in fact we are using those dollars to contract individuals to do that work on behalf of government, then we will look at doing that as sort of a way of getting the job done. But I am aware that, as well, for those jobs that are vacant there have been a number of attempts to fill them. Unfortunately on a couple of occasions, there were no candidates that were accepted for those positions, so they have looked at going through the process once again. But I will take that concern forward and get more details as to what's done, if in fact the money in previous years has been used to contract some of the work out. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Mr. Minister, for your reply. I wanted to ask, Mr. Speaker, if the Minister could provide that information in terms of what is being contracted out. There is some confusion in terms of what the funding for these vacant positions is used for and, Mr. Speaker, if that money is used for contracting out, then I would like to see the Minister give this House some indication on when he may be able to get back to us in terms of folding up these few positions in the Audit Bureau. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 114-15(3): Vacancies In The GNWT Audit Bureau
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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Finance, Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again I will have to get more detail before I even go down that road of folding up positions. I will look at how the work has been done and how that workload has been carried, and from that come back to the Members and provide them information. Through our next business process we can look at some options that would be available to us. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask further questions on the BIP and the waiving of BIP by Cabinet. This time, I would like to ask the questions to the Minister of RWED, the lead Minister, the Minister responsible for this policy. Mr. Speaker, I believe the Minister is well aware of the fact that government has spent a lot of money and concentrated efforts on developing, maintaining and operating this BIP. There is a lot of history to that, there's a lot of justification for this policy, and also RWED is the lead department in promoting, working with and sometimes using a lot of force to encourage the multinationals -- diamond companies, pipeline companies and companies associated with pipeline work if they come on board -- to make sure that we have an agreement and we maximize the benefits from that. So I would like to know from the Minister, having heard the information that he heard this afternoon from my Member's statements if he was listening and I don't want to repeat it, is he not concerned about the fact the waiving of this policy would cost us all the opportunity costs and economic costs coming out of that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. I heard two questions. Mr. Minister.

Return To Question 115-15(3): Costs Of Waiving The Business Incentive Policy
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. I think there are a number of issues. The past government, in making this decision, obviously had to consider a number of factors. We have taken a look at that as well. Clearly when you move from stick built to mobile homes, and then potentially talk about waiving the BIP on the purchase of those mobile homes, you are attempting to find a balance here between supporting economic development in the North and getting the most housing on the ground in small communities that desperately need it. That is certainly a trade-off that we had to discuss, and that was the challenge put to us, it was not an easy decision to make. I want to assure the Member that we have every intention of continuing to support this policy and of continuing to support the value-added manufacturing industry in the Northwest Territories.

The last government did strike a business advisory panel to advise them on matters. A report was submitted to the last government. I intend to respond to that report. I have asked the Construction Association and the NWT Chamber of Commerce for their input. I've gone to a number of manufacturers. I'm aware of a couple specifically in Hay River that we've consulted with to get their input on that strategy, and I will come back, will meet with Members, will table a response so that we can have a discussion about the value of manufacturing in the North and how we best support it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate all the things that he's trying to do, but I would like to concentrate on the issue at hand, Mr. Speaker. The issue is that there is plenty of evidence that suggests that giving this contract and keeping this contract in the North would create jobs and it would have major spin-offs in terms of using our electricians, our plumbers, our local labour to do the painting, taping and siding, instead of watching these 20 mobile homes fly in and get plunked in our communities. We have a real opportunity for our local people to work in them and make money at them and pay tax on them.

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I know he's a Member of Cabinet, he's going to have a say tomorrow. I want to know if he's going to support extending this contract and giving our northerners an opportunity to bid on it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Excuse me, could I get some quiet in the House. It's getting kind of hard to hear the Member ask the question, so could I have some order. Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly continue to support northern manufacturing, will continue to do that, our department continues to do that, this entire government continues to do that. I think that in the specific case of this contract, I illustrated the factors that we had to weigh and balance. In making this determination, we were cognizant of the fact that this was a $2.3 million contract for this year out of a $32 million capital budget for the Housing Corporation, and we were hopeful that northern companies would still compete, would still submit bids. It sounds like 17 northern companies have picked this up. My department is not involved in the contract administration, but in weighing all of these factors, Cabinet made the decision that the more important priority here was putting housing on the ground in small communities. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Final supplementary, Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to bring the Minister back to the issue at hand. It's good for the Minister to say I support this, I support that, I support this, but I tell you the people out there expect the Ministers to walk the talk and not just say I support the policy except in this case, without any justification. So I have a very specific question to the Minister. As a Minister responsible for this policy and Minister responsible for job creation, economy and economic development and spin-off benefits, would the Minister support giving maximum opportunity to local businesses and argue for extension of two weeks in Cabinet on Thursday? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the determination is made by the Housing Corporation that a two-week extension would not cause us any problems in our ability to still get housing on the ground, and would not mean that we would miss deadlines, would not mean that we would miss the ferry season, and would not mean that we would jeopardize putting new housing which will be very valuable to the communities who are awaiting this and desperately need this, and I would say are anticipating this eagerly, if there was no concern about deadlines then the Housing Corporation will come forward and make that case. Cabinet will have a discussion around that, and I am hopeful then that we can have and make the best decision possible when weighing economic development in the North with the need to put housing on the ground. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 6, oral questions. The Member for the Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. In light of the new initiative this government is doing in terms of having the mental health and the alcohol workers in the communities and regions come under the wing of the health programs, can the Minister inform this House on the status of these initiatives in terms of how many agencies or people have been adopted into this program? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my information is that the majority of authorities have concluded the discussions, and the majority of the staff in alcohol and drugs, community wellness workers and mental health workers, have agreed to become board authorities and get the benefits and pay of the positions as you would classify them within the government. Thank you.