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Members Present

Mr. Allen, Honourable Brendan Bell, Mr. Braden, Mr. Delorey, Honourable Charles Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Joe Handley, Mr. Hawkins, Honourable David Krutko, Ms. Lee, Honourable Michael McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Honourable Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Pokiak, Mr. Ramsay, Honourable Floyd Roland, Mr. Villeneuve, Mr. Yakeleya, Honourable Henry Zoe

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to the visitors' gallery and recognize the Honourable Peter Lougheed, former Premier of Alberta from 1971 to 1985. Some of Mr. Lougheed's achievements are he's a member of Queen's Counsel, Honourary Chief of Thunderbird Cree Indians, Honourary Chief of the Blood Indians, and also Queen's Privy Council of Canada and companion of the Order of Canada. It's a real honour to have Mr. Lougheed with us today. Welcome to the House and welcome to the Northwest Territories.

---ApplauseI would also like to recognize a former Speaker of the House, Mr. Tony Whitford. Welcome back. We've missed you.

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Also, Dene National Chief Noeline Villebrun is here. Welcome to the House.

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Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today is World No Tobacco Day. I would like to make use of this opportunity to recognize the work that is being done to create a smoke-free society in the NWT.

Mr. Speaker, there are numerous examples of people and communities working to a common goal of a smoke-free society:

  • • A new campaign targeting school children is using a character named Butthead to encourage kids to commit to be smoke-free. This campaign has only been running for a few weeks and already about 1,340 kids have made the commitment;
  • • New health units have been developed that discuss the effects of smoking. They will be in schools in September;
  • • Almost all workplaces are now smoke-free through the action of the Workers' Compensation Board of the NWT and Nunavut;
  • • This winter, students across the North took part in an initiative called Smoke Screening. They watched some of the best anti-smoking ads from around the world and voted on their favourite. We will announce the winner later today, and put it on northern TV;
  • • The 2nd annual Quit and Win Contest, sponsored by the NWT/Nunavut branch of the Canadian Public Health Association, has encouraged hundreds of people to try quitting. This year's winner was Kenneth Hoddinott. I would also like to congratulate his buddy and wife, Cheryl Fountain, who also succeeded in quitting during the contest.

But even with all of this good work, it is clear that we will still have a long way to go. The average age when NWT children start to smoke is 12 or 13.

Mr. Speaker we need to reach those children before they become smokers. We will be taking that message to youth events around the territory this summer, and continuing into next year. We have a new anti-smoking video that will be used in schools, and kids from across the NWT are wearing "Don't be a Butthead" T-shirts that they received when they committed to be smoke-free. This is a light-hearted theme that has a very serious message. Cigarettes are killing us. It's estimated that second-hand smoke kills 3,600 Canadians every year. It's time to change that. Mr. Speaker, the department is proposing tobacco legislation that will back up community, regional and territorial efforts to create a smoke-free society. It will complement the new Workers' Compensation Board's regulations on environmental tobacco smoke in the workplace.

I look forward to working with the communities and the Members of this House to make these projects successful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to outline the steps being taken by the Department of Public Works and Services with respect to the Samuel Hearne Secondary School in Inuvik.

First of all, let me state my appreciation for the combined efforts of those involved, which has resulted in getting students back to class.

Although the classroom portion of the school is back in operation, a great deal needs to be done. Much of the repair work is only temporary. More permanent solutions are required. The foyer and gymnasium remain unusable, and options are being considered to restore them. Considerable work is underway to address these issues.

Mr. Speaker, we have also turned our attention to examining the events that occurred and identifying the lessons that can be learned. A forensic analysis addressing structural and design issues was conducted immediately after the collapse of the roof and we are expecting that report very soon. Also for insurance purposes, an assessment of costs from both the roof and fire damage is underway.

Additionally, we will be conducting a review of the activities leading up to the event as well as the response to it, to identify any errors that were made and any changes that are needed in the policies and procedures of Public Works and Services. To ensure that this review is as thorough as possible, a qualified third party will be called in to conduct it. The department will also carry out a risk assessment of other buildings across the Territories to identify anywhere snow load may present a danger.

Mr. Speaker, as I stated earlier in this House, it is imperative that we learn from this near tragedy and ensure that such events do not happen again. This was a very serious incident with only one injury and that was a result of the fire. But even one injury is one too many and we are taking concrete steps to ensure that all of our public buildings and safe and secure. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Justice, Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to provide an update to Members of the Legislative Assembly on the Department of Justice's work to implement the Protection Against Family Violence Act.

This act, passed during the 14th Legislative Assembly, provides for 24-hour access to emergency protection orders when there is an act, or threat of family violence. It also provides victims of family violence with long-term protection orders.

Anyone who has lived, or is living, in a family or intimate relationship with the accused will be able to apply for protection under this act. For example, this could include a spouse, former spouse, parent, grandparent or someone who has had a child with the offender.

I am committed to making the protections under this act available as quickly as possible and plan to have the act in force in early 2005. The Department of Justice is in the final stage of hiring a coordinator who will be dedicated to implementing this act.

The coordinator will work with an advisory committee formed by the department to assist with the implementation. This committee includes the RCMP, YWCA, the Department of Health and Social Services, the Native Women's Association and the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Authority.

Over the next six months, the Department of Justice will develop training material and assist in training members of the RCMP, justices of the peace, courts staff and other frontline service providers. The Department of Justice will also provide public education material and develop a system for monitoring and evaluating the Protection Against Family Violence Act.

This is an important piece of legislation that the Department of Justice wants to implement as quickly as possible. However, it must be done properly so that a system is in place to ensure these protections are available to all residents. This work is underway and I look forward to a timely and effective implementation of the Protection Against Family Violence Act.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. The Minister of RWED, Mr. Bell.

Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased today to announce the members of the Waste Reduction and Recovery Advisory Committee. They are:

  • • Mr. Greg Rowe of Hay River Liquor Retailers & Tri R Recycling;
  • • Mr. Ron Courtoreille of the NWT Liquor Commission;
  • • Ms. Stephanie Sibbeston from Fort Simpson;
  • • Mr. Bob Weaver of Territorial Beverages Ltd.;
  • • Mr. Kevin O'Reilly of the NWT Association of Communities;
  • • Mr. Raymond W. Masse of the Inuvik Recycling Society;
  • • Mr. Jack Walker of Peterson and Auger Ltd.;
  • • Ms. Katherine Silcock of the City of Yellowknife; and,
  • • Mr. Joe Agrey of the NWT Motor Transportation Association.

Members will recall that the establishment of the advisory committee was identified in the new Waste Reduction and Recovery Act to provide advice on the establishment and operation of waste recovery programs delivered by this government.

I am confident this committee, with qualified representation from industry, business, municipalities and environmental organizations, will play a vital role in the establishment of our first proposed program, the beverage container recovery program.

The committee held its initial meeting in May and identified the need to develop a full listing of beverage container distributors and importers. The listing will help to ensure that all beverage distributors, manufacturers and importers are treated equally and fairly when the program is implemented later this year.

Mr. Speaker, this government remains committed to providing residents with the opportunity to recycle wastes that would otherwise be disposed in local landfills.

The success of any program, however, will depend on the participation and support of the residents of the Northwest Territories. The Waste Reduction and Recovery Advisory Committee will be instrumental in ensuring the necessary support and participation in this important endeavour. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, it is with great honour that I inform this House of an important milestone that the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation has reached. On October 1st of this year, the corporation will celebrate its 30th anniversary. Thirty years ago, the goal of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation was to create innovative housing programs based on need and environment and make available the best possible standards of housing to all residents of the NWT. Thirty years later our goal is still the same and we have made significant strides in improving and supplying housing in the NWT.

Communities in the Northwest Territories have been visibly transformed over the last 30 years. New houses have replaced homes where families once lived in crowded conditions, seniors are enjoying uniquely designed seniors' complexes, and public housing units have been renovated to provide safe environments for singles and families.

In 1974 we offered seven programs. Today the Housing Corporation offers 16 diverse programs to meet the unique needs of all residents. The corporation in partnership with local housing organizations have developed and delivered many successful housing programs, enabling families, singles and seniors to have access to suitable, adequate and affordable housing.

Housing continues to be in high demand, especially in a growing and developing economy. This presents us with many challenges and to meet these challenges, the corporation will work closely with residents at the community level, Members of this House and the business community.

As the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation looks back over the past 30 years, it has reason to be proud of its record. As a result of its efforts, more people are living in better housing.

The corporation, however, is not resting on its laurels, but is continuing to move ahead. The corporation continues to foster emerging housing markets, strengthen its partnerships, and develop more housing opportunities.

The corporation and its partners will be celebrating accomplishments in various ways throughout the upcoming year. I look forward to visiting a number of communities and personally recognizing the outstanding work done by corporation staff and local housing organizations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for the Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in the House today to speak about what I see as an unfair application of aboriginal rights by the Government of Canada as they related to the Metis people.

The failure of the federal government to recognize and provide a safe process to access programs and services to the Metis as an office to status Indians is unacceptable. It is even more unacceptable, Mr. Speaker, that the Government of the Northwest Territories is forced to follow the federal policies and return it as a royalty for the federal programs to be delivered on their behalf. The Government of the Northwest Territories has taken many steps to address this issue. It has to walk many more miles. One example is the extension of the health benefits to Metis people that matches those available to status Indians and Inuit. This is a positive and proactive approach that recognizes Metis people. This approach needs to be applied to the student financial assistance program as it relates to the Metis people. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment has extended the same access to core funding on student financial assistance for the Metis as enjoyed by the status Indians and Inuit. Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, the federal government does not treat student financial assistance to the Metis the same as goes to the status people on the income tax. This has the effect of making this acknowledgment of the Metis rights a largely symbolic gesture.

Student financial services program delivers a university/college entrance program on USEP on behalf of the federal government. As its name implies, USEP is a two-semester program that gives status Indians rights to attend and succeed in post-secondary institutions.

Mr. Speaker, to paraphrase the old Five Man Electrical Band song, long hair and Metis need not apply. Seriously, Mr. Speaker, I cannot fault the Department of Education, Culture and Employment for this, they are simply following the criteria of eligibility imposed by the federal government. However, this does not mean that there is not a problem that needs to be addressed. There is a gap between adult literacy basic education and entering post-secondary institutions. The USEP program addresses this for status Indians. What program is this for Metis programs? Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, it is time to set up another parallel process like the Metis health benefits for the university/college entry program and offer it to Aurora College. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, mahsi. (English not provided)

Mr. Speaker, we have recently seen a huge increase in the price we pay for fuel. Indications are that prices will continue to rise in the future. This situation is causing difficulties for people in the North no matter where they live. However, Mr. Speaker, I am very concerned that the rise in fuel prices is causing additional hardships for certain residents of the Northwest Territories, but not for all. I am referring to those people who live in smaller communities where electrical power is supplied by diesel fuel generators. These people will soon be bearing an extra burden not shared by everyone. Not only will they have to pay more for gasoline and heating fuel, but they will also have to pay more for electricity too.

This situation is especially serious for elders and other people on a fixed income. Already, power rates in smaller communities are substantially higher than here in Yellowknife. In my riding of Nahendeh, people are paying anywhere between 340 to 820 percent more than people in Yellowknife pay for their electricity. The Northwest Territories is the only jurisdiction in Canada where residents are asked to pay different rates for their power. Everywhere else, people pay one rate whether they live in the North or South, urban or rural areas, in small communities or in large. They are not penalized for choosing to live in certain areas.

Mr. Speaker, I was to go on record today as supporting the single price zone for power rates in the Northwest Territories where everyone pays the same rates. We have to wonder when we look at the rest of the country and see that we are out of step with everyone else, especially we have to wonder when the approach we are taking affects our citizens so disproportionately. Something is very wrong, Mr. Speaker. We have to change the way we are doing business, otherwise we may soon have a crisis on our hands. Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister responsible, during question period, for some thought of what our government is planning to do. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, throughout the Northwest Territories we have many organizations and volunteers who work tirelessly to improve the lives of others. As a government, we do what we can to support the needs of our people. Above and beyond that, non-government organizations, service groups and volunteers contribute work and results of immeasurable value. In Hay River this past Saturday night, we again saw a vivid demonstration of that dedication to communities. Each year, for the past 20 years, the Hay River Knights of Columbus have hosted a lobster fest. Hundreds of live lobsters from the East Coast are flown in, courtesy of Canadian North for the last leg of their trip from Edmonton to Hay River, and are prepared, boiled and cooked by volunteers. This year again, around 700 people attended. The Knights of Columbus have this down to a science. Everyone was served a delicious four course meal in 42 minutes serving time. This in itself is a remarkable feat. Over the past 20 years, the Knights of Columbus have not only provided a wonderful opportunity for people to get together for lobster, entertainment and dancing, they have, in doing so, been able to contribute approximately $300,000 to youth programs in our communities. This year again, the students and staff volunteers of the Diamond Jenness Secondary School were able to showcase their talents as they delivered an outstanding song and dance ensemble called, "The History of Rock and Roll." Following that, dancing to the tune of a live band made sure that everyone worked off a little bit of that delicious meal.

I would like to recognize and thank all of the volunteers and corporate sponsors. There is one person, however, who has been there every year for all 20 consecutive years and, to my mind, is a key contributor to the success of this event. This person is my constituent and my honourable colleague from Hay River North, Mr. Paul Delorey.

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I would ask, Mr. Speaker, yourself and my colleagues in this House to recognize this as a testament to exemplary community service. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, I rise in the House to bring attention to Tourism Awareness Week which, because of the short sitting of this House, I will have to recognize today. That is from June 20th to 26th of this year. Organized by the Tourism Industry Association of Canada around the theme, "Tourism makes Canada Smile," it is aimed at raising the awareness of the tremendous economic and social benefits of a $52 billion industry that keeps 1.6 million Canadians working, supports economic and community development, and generates significant tax revenues for all levels of government.

Tourism Week celebrates Canada's tourism industry and highlights the importance of this vital sector of the economy, our quality of life and our understanding and appreciation of other cultures. The positive economic impacts of tourism are pursued and enjoyed by Canadian communities large and small in all regions, from whale watching charters off the East Coast, to ski resorts in the West, to watching the northern lights in Canada's Arctic. The tourism industry creates employment, supports community and economic development and generates tax revenues for all levels of government. Tourism is big business in Canada and a key driver of our economic growth and prosperity.

But the benefits of tourism go far beyond the tangible return it generates year in and year out for the Canadian economy. Tourism also contributes in significant ways to the quality of life enjoyed by all Canadians. It not only provides a variety of employment opportunities, but supports a wealth of cultural experiences, historic

discovery and outdoor activities, whether we travel to them or enjoy them in our own backyards. Think of that. They are much a part of life in our local communities, but whose very existence is ensured and vitalized by our out-of-town visitors.

Canada's excellent tourism infrastructure, transportation, accommodations, attractions, facilities and services today enable us to access and visit more of our great country than ever before. When we do, we get to meet Canadians from other parts of the country and share their experiences. Exploring Canada gives us a greater sense of place that enhances our pride and elevates our spirit. Perhaps it is through this kind of sharing and exchange that tourism has its most enduring impact, encouraging greater knowledge and understanding among and between people. Globally, tourism contributes to the peaceful resolutions of differences.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You can conclude your statement.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Tourism gives Canada a lot to smile about. Tourism Week is a time to celebrate all that tourism does for us. Canada's tourism industry makes a significant contribution to Canada's economy, to a standard of living as a nation and to the quality of life of all Canadians who have much in our territory to be proud of and support in our tourism industry. During the week of June 20th to 26th, remember that tourism does make Canada smile. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am certainly glad to see that the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation has made a fine statement in the context of housing demands in the Northwest Territories. I am going to preamble my Member's statement by reading a Minister's statement by saying, "Housing continues to be in high demand, especially in the growing and developing economy. This presents us with many challenges and to meet these challenges, the corporation will work closely with residents at the community level, Members of this House and the business community." And, second to that, "The corporation continues to foster emerging housing markets, strengthen its partnerships, and develop more housing opportunities."

Mr. Speaker, it seems like the Minister has some sort of intuition when it comes to housing, so I want to follow that through with my Member's statement by saying that my electoral district of Inuvik Twin Lakes consistently stresses they need to make progressive changes in our socioeconomic policies with emphasis not only in revising policy. In the context of the Minister's statement, one area we need to begin to develop is a mortgage investment corporation for the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the first step in trying to achieve a mortgage investment corporation is to seek legal advice as to whether an NWT mortgage investment corporation requires a charter of its own. It may only require a clear definition of its powers.

Mr. Speaker, we feel that a mortgage investment corporation with lending powers that will stimulate a fast approach to the construction of adequate and affordable priced housing. If a trend analysis methodology which will be used is an indicator, this will not only allow for more individuals to purchase homes, but also includes the development of a housing market and a positive benefit for the building sector as well.

Mr. Speaker, my study of housing across the circumpolar world touches Norway. The Norwegian State Housing Bank provides sole support to its policy about providing loans and grants. It provides purchase loans, personal loans and various grants. Loans and grants are primary...(inaudible)...through municipalities.

I know the NWT Housing Corporation has already provided this level of detail through its homeownership programs, but certainly from an economic investment perspective, it remains a costly subsidy. I may remind Members that it is a costly subsidy.

Further, Mr. Speaker, the MIC will also be an investment arm to provide professional staff housing under section 24, paragraphs (1)(f) of the NWT Act. This would provide for an economic initiative for other department staff who rent or buy directly from the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker David Krutko

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent to conclude your statement.