This is page numbers 471 - 506 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it all sounds quite murky and discombobulated, if you ask me, Mr. Speaker.

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I would like to ask the Minister of Public Works and Services if the delegation has been made to other employees. I know you mentioned the deputy minister and others inside the department. Where is the responsibility factor here, and is the government going against its own policy, as it states, quite clearly, in the GNWT Executive policy that the Executive Council has authorized negotiations? The Minister just stood up two seconds ago and said they didn't. People would like to know what the real policy is on sole source negotiations. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would be glad to provide that information to the Members, and even table it in this House, so people across the North, who are interested, can get a copy of it. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 230-15(4): Alternative Day Care Solutions
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October 23rd, 2005

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the honourable Charles Dent, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. It is on the subject of day care. I am going to wade in on this one. Hay River lost our day care, some time ago, when there was a proponent there facing similar circumstances as what Fort Smith is facing now. Mr. Speaker, I want to say that after the Minister's trip to Ottawa to work on Mr. Dryden on the subject of per capita funding, he follows a well-beaten trail on that topic, so the fact that he didn't come back with a whole pile of money isn't all that amazing to me.

I know a little about day care. Twenty-six years ago, I built a beautiful new day care in Hay River. As a matter of fact, I take some pride in the fact that I was the one who came and lobbied this government, 26 years ago, to put legislation in place so that day cares would be regulated.

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The Minister of the day was from Fort Smith, Arnold McCallum. Anyway, I don't think we are going to get pots of money to address the day care situation. I think we need to become more resourceful. I think we are going about it in the wrong way. I think we need to identify underutilized facilities in the communities, such as schools that are not being completely utilized and have less student population and are absorbing the entire amount of space. We have to find a different way to fund day care. I think that for income support to fund the parents and expect that they are going to pay the day care, and keep it going, is an unrealistic expectation. Has the Minister ever considered funding the day cares directly with the money for day care, as opposed to through the clients? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we actually do both right now. The centres are given a contribution, as are parents. As we are able to put more money into the program, we can certainly take a look at how that is distributed and, perhaps, increase one more than the other.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So for clarification, right now on the cost of paying for the service...I know there are start-up costs available per space created. Right now, day cares can receive direct funding for income support clients who are receiving day care services. Is that correct? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is an operational fund that is provided to day cares right now. That funding has been available for quite some time. That's not just through income support. That is for every registered space that a day care provides. We do provide them with a contribution.

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The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Time for question period has expired; however, I will allow the Minister to continue her supplementary questioning. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Location and facilities are always a challenge, too, when operating a day care centre. Is it possible in communities where there is a school or space available in a school, that that space could be utilized for a pre-school program operated by a non-profit association? Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, that sort of approach is possible. I know that there has been at least one day care that operated out of a portable that was located at a school. So I know that that approach is utilized. One issue is that the funding is impacted when they use space provided like that, such as

public space, at little or no cost, and that is that their contributions are reduced by one-half if they are not paying for their space.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister undertake to provide an assessment, or an inventory, of unused, GNWT paid-for space, be it with Education or any other department; space that's being paid for, heated, lit, that could be easily transformed to day care space across the Northwest Territories? Would he undertake to arrive at an inventory on that for us? Thank you.

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The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can certainly provide that information from our partners in the DECs and the education-related facilities. I will have to ask my colleague, the Minister of Public Works, if the rest of that information is available for other space. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 6, oral questions. Are there any nays? There are no nays. We will return to item 6, oral questions. Before I go there, colleagues, at this time, I would like to draw your attention to the Speaker's Gallery and the presence of our Conflict of Interest Commissioner and Ethics Councillor for the public service in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Ted Hughes.

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Members, as you are aware, Mr. Hughes has tendered his resignation as our Conflict of Interest Commissioner, effective November 30, 2005. Mr. Hughes' term as Conflict of Interest Commissioner was scheduled to expire on February 28, 2006. It is my understanding, however, that his wife instructed him, in no uncertain terms, that he cannot continue to work a day past his 80th birthday.

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Some Hon. Members

Whoa!

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

I know that Mr. Hughes' birthday is not on November 30th, so I am not sure if we should consider this an early retirement or what. Colleagues, I am sure you will all join me in thanking Mr. Hughes for his many years of dedicated service to the House and its Members. His efforts, and wise counsel, have certainly contributed to public confidence in the integrity of our institution. I know some of you will have more to say on this matter later today. Thank you for your candour, counsel and wit, and your unfailing sense of fairness and justice. On behalf of the Legislative Assembly, I wish you and your wife every happiness in the years to come.

---Applause

Thank you, Members. Before we go into question period, the Chair is going to call a short break.

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