This is page numbers 1477 - 1520 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Concerns With Social Housing And Income Support Policies
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take the opportunity today to highlight some situations that are being created by our inhumane policies that lack compassion regarding social housing, homelessness and women. This crosses the board with departments responsible for housing, social services, and employment income security.

Mr. Speaker, I have three examples of these issues. The first one is the fact that, currently, the Yellowknife Housing Authority policy states that if a family gets evicted from social housing, they are not entitled to get any more than $32 from the Income Support Program. Anybody who knows anything about housing in Yellowknife could tell you that there is no way you are going to get anywhere to stay for $32. This could potentially create a situation where you have dozens of families who are literally homeless and have no place to go.

A second situation that I am aware of, that I am really stuck with, is the fact that there is a woman who wants to live with a child, but social housing will not provide them a home. She cannot be united with her child unless she has a home. Without the child, she doesn't qualify for a home, and she is in a women's shelter. She is stuck in this place where it is really very difficult.

A third situation, Mr. Speaker, I want to speak about is a situation where the housing association office in Yellowknife is becoming, for some, very punitive in the way they deal with those who they consider to be problem tenants. Instead of taking these concerns to the rental office, who I think they feel are being too lenient to tenants, and I think it was meant to be that way, they're bumping up a lot of cases to the Supreme Court. That requires a lawyer for these people who cannot afford that. This is one of the reasons why I thought the new legal aid office should have gone into. Anyway, I'm dealing with a lot of issues but, Mr. Speaker, I just want to highlight these three very difficult situations that people are dealing with in our community and that takes coordination on the part of all these three departments to work out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Concerns With Social Housing And Income Support Policies
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize Mr. Sandy MacDonald in the gallery. Sandy is the territorial librarian and helped launch the Unicorn system today at lunch.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to recognize Major Al Hoeft from the Salvation Army and a good constituent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today at lunch we had the privilege of being with the NWT seniors as they opened up their new offices. We have the privilege, as well, of having some of them in the House today. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize Ms. Bea Campbell, the president from Fort Smith; Alvin Armstrong, the vice-president from Hay River; Lloyd Brooms, past-president from Hay River; Tom Wilson, a director from Fort Simpson; Florence Barnaby, a director from Fort Good Hope; as well, Barb Hood, the executive director of the NWT Seniors' Society. Please welcome these good folks.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to recognize three people from Hay River in the gallery today: Alvin Armstrong, Lloyd Brooms, and, as mentioned by Mr. Dent, our chief territorial librarian, Mr. Sandy MacDonald. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, I heard a constituent of mine's name mentioned, Mr. Tom Wilson. I'd like to recognize him. Thank you very much.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this time I'd also like to recognize Major Al Hoeft, who happens to be the president of the Yellowknife Rotary Club. I believe John Argue is up there somewhere. He's no stranger to this Assembly and he's also a member of the Yellowknife Rotary Club. Finally, I'd just like to say as a whole I'd like to tip my hat to all the seniors we have in the gallery today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. I, as well, would like to pass on my welcoming to the group that's in the gallery today, especially our seniors who had a big event today opening up their new office here in Yellowknife. I was glad to attend that. I wish you all the best of luck in your new offices. I'd also like to recognize a couple of my constituents in Hay River: Al Armstrong and Lloyd Brooms.

---Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in following up with my line of questioning from yesterday and my Member's statement from today, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask Mr. Dent if he's ever seen the remand unit in the Hay River South Mackenzie Correctional Centre. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Dent.

Return To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have, and not as an inmate.

---Applause

Return To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I meant that question in the most serious way because it is difficult to talk about something that's technical like this without having a mental picture of how the layout is, and I feel like yesterday I was kind of having a hard time explaining all the many functions which happen in that particular controlled unit. Mr. Speaker, I'd also like to ask the Minister, he referred to the contract yesterday with the Hay River detachment for the RCMP saying that their budget would accommodate this extra activity and travel costs. I'd like to know, was the budget for this upcoming year revisited with these extra costs in mind? Was there an increase? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I didn't mean to imply that we had negotiated a new arrangement with the RCMP. There's one overall contract with the RCMP in the Northwest Territories. But we are confident that, and after talking with the RCMP, the costs can be absorbed. Any extra costs that we may be required to pay, such as for transportation, we believe we will have very close to the right amount in savings and the $18,000 that was not given up as part of the overall reduction exercise. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So the $18,000 for staff and transportation and travel costs is supposed to absorb the inmates who are in remand being transported to Yellowknife from Hay River. What about the cost difference between the costs for transporting inmates from Hay River to Yellowknife versus the extra cost, more than what it costs say to bring somebody from Fort Resolution to Hay River as opposed to Fort Resolution to Yellowknife? Has that extra cost been calculated in there? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Question 458-15(3): Closure Of The South Mackenzie Correctional Centre Remand Unit
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Dent.