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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Minister.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the process, as laid out, is with our policies that are in place. Each applicant would be put through that. They would be followed. If the rules are followed, then there is no ground for appealing if that is the basis of the concern. So as we go forward from here, as we have stated, to clarify where we are going and to make this a more transparent process, going with the independent staffing appeals officers, it is our goal to limit the concern that people are not being given a fair opportunity for the jobs that are in place. As we have it, the rules are there. They are to be followed. If the rules are followed and applied, then it should be fairly straightforward. But that is one of the reasons we are going the way we are, is to try to create a little bit more independence on how the process goes. Hopefully, at the end of the day, people would agree with that. As stated earlier, there will be individuals at the end of the day that still will not be happy with the decision because they would not be successful. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Villeneuve.

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Robert Villeneuve

Robert Villeneuve Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a question on the question of the independence of the staffing review officers. I guess I am understanding that they are going to be government employees. I don't know how arm's length they are going to be from the government, because they are going to be ministerial appointments, I guess. How is the Department of Finance going to ensure that the staffing review officers are totally independent, unbiased and objective when it comes to reviewing any kind of staffing appeals process? What kind of reassurance can the public get to just having any confidence in the review officers that are going to be put in place?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Villeneuve. Mr. Minister.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as we are laying this out, the process is we would put out a request for individuals who have interest in taking up those positions. They would not be allowed to be government personnel. So a government employee would not qualify for one of these positions. They will be contracted positions. Once they are selected and will have the experience to fit the criteria, they would be in there for a three-year term. The only reason they could be removed would be for not following the rules, not going in accordance to the act.

So the Minister-of-the-day cannot go back for one year into a term of a staffing review officer's position and decide to make a change. It's pretty well guaranteed tenure for three years, unless there is cause or incapacity. So if an individual becomes ill, that would be the other reason we would try to find a new position. As the act comes into place and change happens, selection is made and three years is what the individual would be put in for and could only be removed for incapacity or not following the rules. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Any further general comments? Clause by clause?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Bill 21, An Act to Amend the Public Service Act, clause 1.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Clause 3.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Clause 4.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Clause 5.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Clause 6.

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Bill as a whole?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Does committee agree that Bill 21 is ready for third reading?

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Ramsay

Thank you. Bill 21 is now ready for third reading. Thank you, committee. Thank you, Mr. Minister. Thank you, witnesses.

---Applause

We will now move on to Aboriginal Affairs. I would like to ask the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs to provide his opening comments on his departmental estimates. Mr. Premier.