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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Than you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Justice, with respect to the courthouse that is being planned. I understand that this initiative was being brought forward by this government. Constituents of my riding are concerned; they want to know why we need to spend so much on such infrastructure. They want to know why we are building another courthouse in Yellowknife when we already have one there, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Dent.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the years, the courthouse has become too small for the number of cases that are held in it. Right now, in the last year, we have had rented space outside the courthouse for a large civil case: the Giant Mine trial. With that one, we spent over $355,000. Just since Christmas, we've had to rent space in one of the local hotels for courts and we will again this year. We know about another large trial that's coming up later this spring that we're going to have to rent space outside the courthouse. What's happened is that the growth in the number of cases that are being heard in Yellowknife has meant that we can't house them all in the space that's available. That's one of the biggest problems, and the other problem is security. The security issues that surround the courts right now can't be dealt with. So we have a choice: either rent more space or build space. Since it seems to make more sense for us to pay ourselves rather than paying a landlord, so the government has decided to propose the building of a courthouse.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I understand a little bit about the reasoning behind that and perhaps the Minister can tell me what is the estimated cost of this new courthouse. Is this like a Class 'D' estimate and how old is this estimate for the new courthouse, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Dent.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The estimate that we have was provided by Public Works and Services. It is a Class 'D', so an initial estimate, and it was prepared by Public Works and Services within the last few months, just since fall. Right now they have estimated the cost to be about $41 million.

Further Return To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I understand that some of the expenditures that they're

looking for in 2005-06 is to do a full engineering study and the budgeted amount is around $41 million. I'm just wondering, at what point will the government put the brakes on this project if it exceeds the $41 million bill?

Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Dent.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government has decided to initiate this project by going to a full set of plans and then going out to tender. So before we break ground we'll know the full cost of the project. This isn't going to be handled through a construction management process where the costs could escalate after the construction has started. It is our intention to make sure that we know the costs before proceeding with it. All of the amounts that will be spent on the building will have to be voted by this Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. That's what I'm looking for. I just want the government to assure us that they're not going to run into a situation where they get half a building done for $40 million and then are going to ask for another $40 million to complete it. That's been our history and I'd like to know what the government is going to do for this project that's going to prevent that.

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Supplementary To Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Dent.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, where we've seen significant changes in project costs have been through the construction management process and this government is not prepared to undertake that process for this building. We are going to get the full set of plans done and then go out to public tender. Once we have the results in, we will award the contract. That way you know what the cost of the building is going to be. Thank you.

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Question 566-15(3): New Courthouse
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

March 7th, 2005

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions this afternoon are for the Minister of Health and Social Services in the area of our Mental Health Act and its modernization and the services that we provide. Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding, if I have the statistics right here, that about 50 percent of all visits to doctors are because of mental health related illnesses or problems that people are having. My question is does the NWT have enough capacity and trained workers and professionals to deal with the caseload of mental illness now before us? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, like every problem area that we do have, there are more problems than there are resources. The people who are on hand to do the work are coping. We do have funding available for another psychiatrist, but have yet to be successful in recruiting. Are there problems that could be better served? Probably, but we have a significant number of resources on the ground, in the communities, mental health workers, community wellness workers, in addition to the nurses and doctors and psychiatrists here, and some psychologists and counsellors. Thank you.

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Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, in my statement I was talking about the changes in legislation that have come about as compelled by what's going on out there on the streets and especially in the area of recognition of human rights and other new laws that are entrenching the rights and freedoms of the individual. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Minister, how serious is the gap in our legislation regarding current laws on mental illness? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Miltenberger.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, as the Member indicated in his statement, this piece of legislation is about 17 years old. It does have gaps. It's not on the legislative agenda for this Assembly at this point, but it is a piece of legislation that is on our list, but we have other more pressing ones like the Pharmacy Act and the Public Health Act, which are very, very old. Generations old. They're seriously out of date and we're working on them. As well as the Personal Directives Act, the Tobacco Act that is coming forward, and there's a piece from the child and family services as well that's coming forward, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Supplementary, Mr. Braden.

Supplementary To Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Question 567-15(3): Mental Health Resources
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In a meeting that I had with some mental health professionals a few weeks ago, it became apparent that there are some aspects at least of this that could very well serve not only those people suffering from mental illness, but the professionals who have to grapple with trying to make the right decisions using our legislation as their platform. Would the Minister consider at least a preliminary investigation into what might be done to address some of

these more pressing human rights aspects of our law? Thank you.