Debates of March 9th, 2005

This is page numbers 1899 - 1944 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Maca/rcmp Co-location Initiative
New Courthouse In Yellowknife
50th Annual Caribou Carnival
Housing Issues In Nahendeh
Oil And Gas Development Positions
Beverage Container Recovery Program
Consolidation Of GNWT Human Resource Functions
Need For Residential Treatment Centres
Child Poverty
Transportation Services For Elders And Frontline Workers
Support For Truancy Reduction Measures
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Cleanup Of Contaminated Sites
Affirmative Action Advisory Committee
Federal Board Appointment Process
School Attendance In The Nwt
Updating Garnishee Legislation
Child Poverty In The Nwt
Factors Of Incarceration
Oil And Gas Positions For The Mackenzie Delta
Land Leases On Tlicho Lands
Squared Log Home Potential
New Roads In The Sahtu
Written Question 81-15(3): Expanded Downpayment Assistance Program
Written Question 82-15(3): New Courthouse In Yellowknife
Written Question 83-15(3): Management Assignment Program
Written Question 84-15(3): Rental Costs
Petition 4-15(3): Addictions Treatment Centres In The Nwt
Tabled Document 122-15(3): Public Utilities Board 2004 Annual Report
Tabled Document 123-15(3): "act Now" - Report Of The WCB Legislative Review Panel
Appointment To The Standing Committee On Accountability And Oversight
Appointment To The Mackenzie Valley Land And Water Board
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act
Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act
Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act
Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act
Committee Motion 38-15(3) To Amend Clause 10 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act
Committee Motion 39-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Day The Civil Marriage Act (canada) Comes Into Force, Withdrawn
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada)
Committee Motion 41-15(3) To Add $311,000 To The Highways Activity In Bill 20, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2004-2005
Committee Motion 42-15(3) To Amend The Schedule To Bill 20 To Increase The Supplementary Appropriation By $311,000
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Bill 21: An Act To Amend The Public Service Act
Bill 19: Appropriation Act, 2005-2006
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. One more question then I will be done with my general comments here. I will make a comment to the $4 million for additional costs that recur for services at hospitals outside the Northwest Territories. Is this only to one hospital or is this to many hospitals across Canada? This is a huge number to pay for services that possibly could be done in the Northwest Territories.

I might be getting into some areas that maybe we cannot do here in the Territories, but that is a huge increase for costs that we are paying outside the Northwest Territories. Maybe if I can get the Minister to briefly explain to me why $4 million are being spent for services outside the Territories for our people. Mahsi, Madam Chairperson.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. A large part of this increase is as a result of the increased usage of hospitals outside the Northwest Territories. Almost two-thirds or three-quarters of this, actually, is in the area of increased utilization. Approximately $2.8 million was just the increased use, add another $330,000 for the additional rate increase for the services that were charged by the Capital Health Authority, and then claims processed between 2003-04 and 2004-05 is about another $800,000 or $860,000. The biggest driver here is the actual increase in use of the hospital facilities outside the Territories. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Ramsay, general comments.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have a couple more questions that I would like to ask. The first one relates to some funding for the community of Ndilo, $29,000 to plan and design a new subdivision. I have been down in Ndilo many times, and I am just wondering where exactly in the community of Ndilo are they planning on putting a subdivision. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has come forward with that. We know that it is for putting a plan together. I am not aware of the actual detail of where in the community this site is being looked at. Maybe the Minister has that background information. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. If I could maybe get that response from the Minister of MACA in terms of where exactly in Ndilo the proposed subdivision is. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Roland.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't have that information on me at this time. I don't know if the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs has that available at this time, but he may have that detail that he can provide to the Member. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. McLeod.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, Ndilo submitted a request for extraordinary funding for planning and designing a new subdivision. They have a serious issue in the community regarding accessing some funding and also to develop new lots. We don't have exact locations. At least I don't have that information tonight. That is all I have at this point. I could commit to getting further information. At this point, the money is earmarked and identified for planning and design of a new subdivision.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. When I said that I know the Premier is familiar with the community of Ndilo too, I am not familiar where there is an area you could actually put a subdivision because it is the end of Latham Island. I am wondering if the Minister can provide the information on where that new subdivision is going to go in Ndilo, if in fact it is Ndilo. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. McLeod.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Madam Chair, I can't tell you exactly where the location of the subdivision is being planned for. This money is for planning and design. My information tells me that it is at the end of the island, and we are applying for extraordinary funding because Ndilo is unable to secure the financial resources through the regular funding process. We are going through this route to do the planning and design and create a new subdivision to open up properties or some lots for what we believe would be able to accommodate their needs for three years.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can the Minister of MACA state unequivocally that the subdivision is in fact in Ndilo proper? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. McLeod.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Yes, Madam Chair.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay. The Minister confirms yes, it is in Ndilo. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to thank the Minister for that. I wouldn't want to think that it was somewhere else. The Minister knows where I am thinking of too. I think that is probably about all I had, Madam Chair. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. General comments, Mr. Yakeleya.

Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

I understand there is some extra funding going to the Centre for Northern Families and also the Salvation Army for short-term needs for homeless individuals in the communities. Is that something that we are expecting every year? We certainly need that type of money in our communities. Is this the type of funding that is going to come up every year in the supps? Thank you.