Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Boyd.
Debates of March 9th, 2005
This is page numbers 1899 - 1944 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Law Clerk Mr. Boyd
Yes, just as a point of clarification, the act would come into force on the earlier of the two days and I spoke of the 38th Parliament, it would be the First Session of the 38th Parliament, but it would be the earlier of either of the end of the Parliament or the passing of the Civil Marriage Act.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Madam Chair. I guess in general I fail to see the need for this, because if this is just a delay and Parliament could change any time now and clause (a) is not linked to anything substantive that I see that would be earth shattering. Maybe for those in the 37th Parliament maybe, but not to me. So as far as linking to the Civil Marriage Act, I'm concerned because I don't think it actually directly links to it. Indirectly I think it is associated and I do think the Members here do have some points that have been validly raised, but I don't think it directly corresponds with it. So I'll be voting against the motion. Thank you.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you. I have more Members to speak to this. So let's give them a chance. To the motion. I have Mr. Braden.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Bill Braden Great Slave
Thanks, Madam Chair. I will not be supporting this motion either. I can appreciate that sometimes there is a benefit to giving ourselves some room and some time from when a motion or a bill is passed in the Assembly and when it actually takes effect. In fact, I think there are some that have been out there for years that have been passed by this Assembly, but have yet to take force. In this case, I don't really know where the benefit would be for anybody to further delay the coming into force of the provisions of this bill, which, from my understanding, would come into force on assent. Yes, this bill will come into force on assent in our Assembly and I am very much in favour of that. So I will be voting against the motion. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Thank you. Madam Chair, I can't see why other Members can't support this type of motion that we're putting forward. It doesn't take away from the intent of the bill. If this motion gets passed, I'm sure the bill will get passed and coming into force is on either of these two dates that are there. So no matter what happens, the bill is going to come, but it will be on the later date. This motion, if passed, also gives comfort to Members on this side of the House that haven't had an opportunity to explain to their constituents as to why this bill is being passed. So an explanation can be given to them. By not doing this, Madam Chair, the current bill will come into force as soon as the Commissioner gives it assent. It doesn't give the opportunity to Members on this side of the House to go back to their communities and explain why they didn't vote against this bill. So I think it's fair. In my view, by supporting this motion, by putting this motion forward it will give more comfort to some of us on this side of the House so that we can have an opportunity to talk to our constituents. On top of that, Madam Chair, maybe the whole issue of the Civil Marriage Act is going to be dealt with before they prorogue the Parliament. So one or the other, no matter what happens, we're just buying a little bit of time and I can't see why the government would go against this type of thing. It's not an urgency and, like I said earlier, I don't understand why this was put as a top priority for government, but, nevertheless, I encourage all the Members to support this motion. Mahsi.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Question.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Question is being called. All those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? The motion is defeated.
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Bill 17 as a whole, as amended.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Does the committee agree that Bill 17 is ready for third reading, as amended?
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Okay, Bill 17 is now ready for third reading, as amended. Thank you, Mr. Dent, Mr. Aitken, Ms. Austin and Mr. Boyd.
The next item on our agenda is Bill 20, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2004-2005. Is committee agreed that we will now proceed with the Supplementary Appropriation Act? Mr. Zoe.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Zoe. The motion is in order, it is not debatable. All those in favour of the motion to report progress? All those opposed? The motion is defeated. We will proceed then and ask Minister Floyd Roland if he would please provide his opening comments on Bill 20. Mr. Roland.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake
Thank you, Madam Chair. I am pleased to introduce Bill 21, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2004-2005. This bill requests authority for additional appropriations of $16.813 million for operations and expenditures.
Major items included in this request for operations expenditures are:
1.A total of $11.1 million for the Department of Health and Social Services, including:
- • $4 million for the additional costs incurred for the provision of hospital services for NWT residents in hospitals outside of the NWT;
- • $2 million for the Dogrib Community Services Board's accumulated deficit and increased operating costs;
- • $1.9 million for additional costs being incurred in supplementary health programs; and,
- • $1.6 million for increases to compensation resulting from the re-evaluation of nursing and allied health care professional jobs.
2.$2.2 million for increased costs resulting from the rise in fuel prices in the NWT since 2002.
Subsequent to the supplementary appropriation document being provided to Members, an urgent issue has arose with the Mackenzie Valley winter road maintenance.
At the appropriate time, I will be making a motion to increase the Department of Transportation's supplementary request by $311,000.
I am prepared to review the details of the supplementary appropriation document.
That concludes my opening remarks. I would be pleased to answer any questions Members may have. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
At this time then I'll ask the committee if they would agree to ask the Minister if he would like to bring witnesses into Chamber.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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Committee Motion 40-15(3) To Amend Bill 17 To Come Into Force On The Earlier Of The Prorogation Of The First Session Of The 38th Parliament And The Coming Into Force Of The Civil Marriage Act (canada), Defeated
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Roland. Then I'll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort Mr. Roland's witnesses to the witness table.
Mr. Roland, for the record could you please introduce your witness?